| Front wheel bearing install on 97 Avalon XLS gone bad. - Click HERE for Original Thread |
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This project fought us every step of the way. What could have gone wrong did go wrong, including the new bearing exploding in the press. We will chalk this one up to experience and put in a new bearing.
I will add a full write up later on the tools needed when the project is completed. Right now, my car is up on axle stands in my garage not going anywhere. :mad:
Tools needed:
1X 17 mm ½ socket (to remove ball joint to subframe bolts, brake caliper bolts, and tie rod end nut.)
1 air gun and compressor. If those are not available use ½ drive socket, small ½ drive extension
1 breaker bar
1 pickle fork
Hammer for the pickle fork.
Wheel bearing grease. (tip, put a light coat of wheel bearing grease in the prongs of the fork to prevent the rubber tie rod boot from ripping.)
1 X 12 mm socket to remove ABS wire.
2 X 22 mm wrenches or sockets to remove strut bolts from hub.
1 X new wheel bearing.
1 X Torque wrench.
1 X 30 mm Axle socket
1 Pair of pliers to remove old cotter pin
1 New cotter pin per side.
If you are planning to take it into a shop to press the old bearing out and new one in, then you need nothing else.
If you plan to remove old bearing and install new one you need.
1 X Crap load of patience
1 X 6 ton shop press. Manual one is fine
1 X right size of socket to fit the outside race of the new bearing
1 X Benzene torch, angle grinder, air chisel to remove old broken bearing from part of the hub, prybar.
1 X slide hammer to separate the hub.
1 X snap ring pliers. Can get a kit from Princess auto for $40.00
Tip:
If your wheel bearing has come appart and half is welded to the hub and the other half has spwered its ball bearing guts out just replace the knuckle. This is $168.00 including GST from an autowrecker. The unit will come ready to be bolted on to the car. It usually will come with the ABS Sensor/wire clip, and a rotor.
This hub can be found in the Toyota Sienna Minivan line, Camry V6 from 1992 to 2005 (I think), Camry Solara, Lexus ES300, and 1995 to 1999 Toyota Avalon.
Now....time for the gore.
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| EK9Hatch |
Shitty deal :(
Jamie |
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| SUPRAMAN |
| I know how you feel, I did one in the supra the being of spring. It was a bitch. |
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| euro_ftw |
| shitty deal man.:mad: :( |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Hahaha, just kidding. What happened there Mike? Were you not pressing on the outer race of the bearing?:dunno: |
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Bwa ha ha ha.
Yes this was an epic fail! :lol:
We were using the old bearing to press in the new one. We had a large socket attached to the old bearing to press it. Somehow the bearing went in crooked and with a little more pressure. POP.
I will remove the dust shield and ball joint and move the press up to eye level so I can get a better visual and have better access. I will bring in the new bearing to princess auto so I can line up an appropriate sized socket.
Upon reflection, I suspect that using a combination of the old bearing and the socket that fit inside the old bearing, this put undue pressure on the inside of the new bearing causing it to pop.Or… Somehow the pressure was not evenly distributed? This time I will take a wood block and a hammer and tap the bearing into place so it has a bit of a better fit before I press it in. :dunno:
I am going to see if I can get it replaced under warranty. I highly doubt that it will be covered. It is worth a shot.. I will check with Napa to see what the cost is on a new bearing and axle seals. |
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| flatboy |
| Also throw the bearing in the freezer for a couple hrs to get it going on the small side and a slightly warmed up hub will expand the hub slightly. You only need a thou or 2 differance to have it go in easily. |
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Originally posted by flatboy
Also throw the bearing in the freezer for a couple hrs to get it going on the small side and a slightly warmed up hub will expand the hub slightly. You only need a thou or 2 differance to have it go in easily.
Good tip.
I will throw it in the freezer when I get home. The press worked good. :D
I will take the new bearing to princess auto to find a socket that is the EXACT size of the outer race. |
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| ozzmodan |
| How much more is it just to get the entire assembly (hub & bearing)? |
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Originally posted by ozzmodan
How much more is it just to get the entire assembly (hub & bearing)?
Pre owned hubs range from $75.00 to $300.00
New ones from Toyota world are $240.00 with out the bearing. |
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| EDISKRAD EHT |
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| GOT SE-R |
| Hahaha...loosther! Next time use brains over brute strength. :lol: :lol: |
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Originally posted by GOT SE-R
Hahaha...loosther! Next time use brains over brute strength. :lol: :lol:
Maybe that is the trick. :lol: |
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| AudiInProgress |
| Or call chuck norris, instead of using a socket... |
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Just to update.
I recieved an email from the company saying they would ship out another one free of charge. All I need to do is take a pic of the exploded one and send it off. :beer: :thumbup: |
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SUCCESS!
So I purchased one from Canadian Tire tonight. With the help of Marcenator we had this little #%$@^ installed.
Here is what we did.
1) Froze the bearing for 2 hours.
2) Used a 2.25 socket 1Inch drive to press the new one in.
3) Made multiple stops, checks to make sure this damn thing was level. Once she was level on the multiple attempts, she slid right in.
The only show stopper was the lack of cotter pins I had. A quick stop to princess auto to return a bunch of sockets and pick up a 1000 piece cotter pin set for $13.00, then a quick stop to Canadian Tire for various cotter pins for $0.63 did the trick. I will return the set of 1000 tomorrow.
The test drive was successful. The wheel did not fall of on the turns or the whitemud. Only a small rubbing issue coming from the dust shield. A few quick pokes and it was noiseless. :D
Mission accomplished. |
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Alright, the only thing that can rival my record for most turbo's destroyed in one month are these wheel bearings. :lol:
Total destroyed wheel bearing count since I have owned the car. 4
Total wheel bearings destroyed with in the past week. 3
I finally fixed this problem by determining that the root cause of all this evil was a damaged knuckle/hub.
When I had removed the calipers, and rotor, the hub fell out and allowed the wheel bearing to barf ball bearings all over my floor. :mad:
Sooo.... after an unsuccessfull day at hunting on Saturday at a few different self serve wreckers I gave up and called black gold on Monday. $168.00 later, I have a new rotor (not used), new knuckle, new abs sensor/wire (not used) from a Toyota Previa.
Installation time.... Just under 1 hr.
Test drive with out car grinding or making some aweful attention grabbing noise.... priceless. :D
I will update this little tip in the first post. |
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