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Ayeso
quote:
Originally posted by Gargoyle25
^ me too kinda, it should be ok as long as you listen to opinions on places, in other words, don't go to this place...


or do the work yourself so you have noone else to blame

Ayeso
double post ftw

Gargoyle25
i was thinking that too, but we don't all have a dyno in our garage

2ndgenlude
ya, modding this much there is always issues that come up. and dealing with shops is always a pain. one of the disadvantages of living in edmonton i guess. my next project will either be a n/a swap in a EG or a fox body mustang lol. something with a bit of a easier modding schedule. boosting a h22 properly isn't easy. all well i guess. i should have it back as soon as he finds a gasket. just need a t3 crush gasket. mopac probably has them in stock.

2ndgenlude
good news. the new injectors/ hondata 4 bar map sensor is installed. martin got everything to work today and spent a little over a hour on part throttle. says it idles like a stock car, everything went smooth. boost tune in the morning. i should have it back tomorrow afternoon :thumbup:

Xx D-MAN xX
Make sure you post the results and a dyno plot would be even better. I'm eager to see if you get close to 400whp.

Gargoyle25
you should tell us all if you get it back tomorrow afternoon, then maybe we could have an afternoon saturday meet to gawk, i mean see your finished lude :D

walkur1
So has there been any tire shredding? Or is it still on the dyno? Any results? We all need rides in this beast before the evil white stuff comes.

Gargoyle25
so i assume you still don't have it back

2ndgenlude
nope. i will give everyone a update today. i might pull it out and send it to lightspeed in red deer. he better have it done when i walk in there.

Beagles
Tyler if its not done, you should seriously consider homicide.

Gargoyle25
out of curiousity did they give you an estimate as to how long it would take when you first took your car there?

Beagles
quote:
Originally posted by Gargoyle25
out of curiousity did they give you an estimate as to how long it would take when you first took your car there?


They probably told him a week or 2 tops.

2ndgenlude
well i might get it back today. martin called me, and its on the dyno. he needed to know how much timing he should have on a built h22. anyways its tuned on 13psi so far, and by the end of the day hopefully 17-18ish. im heading over there soon to see how its going.

2ndgenlude
well i went in. and talked to him. car will be done tomorrow he says. maybe we should set up a meet for either tomorrow or sat night. i could probably bring it out. car needs mounts bad though. engine has way too much movement. i took it for a rip at 13psi and it moves pretty good. its sitting at 310-320whp at the moment. definately faster lol.

Beagles
jesus

sick_boy
so how long all together did it take you to resolve the conflict? since you brought it in first time to AFI... i am defenetly not bringing my car there, i am going to red deer to see cam with it tom

2ndgenlude
it took a long time. i hope its done tomorrow. he assured me it will be. its been there since....well...i honestly can't remember lol. kinda nice cause i have nowhere to park it right now. i might keep it at work and put it in the locked warehouse at night. at least theres a security system on the building. im just happy i got to drive it today with a decent boost level. its really starting to open up with the higher boost.

tcpx
so how'd it go man?

2ndgenlude
its not done...which im not surprised. no phone call. no update from him. i actually stopped caring. i guess he will phone me when he decides to get around to it. honestly its been so long its lost its excitement. which is sad...maybe it will come back when its done, who knows.

its also the main reason its up for sale. due to how long its taken i lost intrest in it. its been 3 years since ive really daily driven my car. its been a long time...

Beagles
tell him to fuck off and do it already. Or youll burn his house down.

sick_boy
wow man i am really sorry to hear, Martin is just creating himself a bad reputation and makes other shops look good ( lightspeed) so eventually he will learn how to treat a costumer good and do the right job, and dont fuck up, well we all humans me all make mistakes but we try to fix them after atleast some of us, but he seems not to care and thinks that all peaople/costumers will come back to him for more bussines... But to me after reading some stories aobut his shop i wont bring my car there and none of my friends will... so its all spreads around fast... look how many people posted and read your theread, i bet half of those people will think twice before dealing with him

As for excitment i am sure you will be axcited again ones you get a call from him saying that your car is done

2ndgenlude
honestly i have no idea what his problem is. all the car needs is a hour or 2 on the dyno and its done. must be too difficult for him to accomplish. its ridiculous he can't spend a little time on it to get it out of the shop. there is no excuse period. fuck i could have went down to the states, took a tuning class for a month or so, rent out a dyno and have the fucking car done already myself instead of waiting for a tune for months. hes had the car since july 23rd......i can't fucking believe it.

2ndgenlude
quote:
Originally posted by sick_boy
wow man i am really sorry to hear, Martin is just creating himself a bad reputation and makes other shops look good ( lightspeed) so eventually he will learn how to treat a costumer good and do the right job, and dont fuck up, well we all humans me all make mistakes but we try to fix them after atleast some of us, but he seems not to care and thinks that all peaople/costumers will come back to him for more bussines... But to me after reading some stories aobut his shop i wont bring my car there and none of my friends will... so its all spreads around fast... look how many people posted and read your theread, i bet half of those people will think twice before dealing with him

As for excitment i am sure you will be axcited again ones you get a call from him saying that your car is done



im hoping my experience informs some people, and helps them make the right choice. its all i can really hope for out of the whole situation. its just a giant mess.

sick_boy
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
im hoping my experience informs some people, and helps them make the right choice. its all i can really hope for out of the whole situation. its just a giant mess.


Sure did man ;) and i am sure a lot of other people

Gargoyle25
that really does suck, but if you lude is anything like mine, seeing it again will get you excited, the sound of the engine will get your heart pounding and you won't want to leave the seat once your in it

you loved it once, it'll return the feeling

pooptart
quote:
Originally posted by sick_boy
wow man i am really sorry to hear, Martin is just creating himself a bad reputation and makes other shops look good ( lightspeed) so eventually he will learn how to treat a costumer good and do the right job, and dont fuck up, well we all humans me all make mistakes but we try to fix them after atleast some of us, but he seems not to care and thinks that all peaople/costumers will come back to him for more bussines... But to me after reading some stories aobut his shop i wont bring my car there and none of my friends will... so its all spreads around fast... look how many people posted and read your theread, i bet half of those people will think twice before dealing with him

As for excitment i am sure you will be axcited again ones you get a call from him saying that your car is done



Hense why i made the thread about ic piping and stated I DO NOT WANT AFI DOING IT. WHy? Because i don't want to support that piece of shit.

You really should have sued his shop like i said....you can still....you could probably claim "damages" now as well.....it's very easy to do Tyler....

Beagles
Time is money friend, and your time has been wasted, therefore you need some repayment.

2ndgenlude
quote:
Originally posted by pooptart
Hense why i made the thread about ic piping and stated I DO NOT WANT AFI DOING IT. WHy? Because i don't want to support that piece of shit.

You really should have sued his shop like i said....you can still....you could probably claim "damages" now as well.....it's very easy to do Tyler....



you know, im starting to think i should. no shop should be taking this long for anything. im just wondering what kind of grounds i have to sue. i would have to build some sort of case, and go through all the bullshit. it would be a giant gong show. i can`t believe he would treat a customer like this though. what ever happened to customer service. especially since he knows i will post my experience on a forum which could determine how much much business he actually gets off here. you would think he would be trying to do a good job. i should start posting on his other domestic forums and see if that makes a difference. if i threaten his domestic business i think it would be a different story. he obviously favors domestics, so he gets them out first. he can`t deny it either. ive seen it over and over again. cars in and out in the blink of the eye, just because they have a v8 in them. all his import shit stays around the shop for when hes bored im pretty sure. ive been nothing but patient, and he still fucks me around. I can`t wait till i have the car back in my hands and i get to write my MASSIVE feedback thread and post it in general. its going to be epic. i should start writing it now probably. its going to be a short novel. He must think I won`t do anything about it....lol. hes in for a surprise.

tcpx
lol. a summary of this whole thread would still be pretty long for a feedback so start writing :lol:
but seriously though, I'm surprised you let this go on for THIS long :dunno: like beagles said.. time is money, and you've been getting dragged on for WAY too long now so you gotta do something...

2ndgenlude
im going to pull the car out tomorrow done or not. ive said it before but im serious this time. enough is enough. i will be in there tomorrow and will let everyone know what goes down...but its not going to be pretty. I have to put my foot down sometime. I don`t want to drive to red deer, but it looks like thats what will happen. lightspeed might have to finish it, unless someone like ayeso can help me street tune the rest of it. only needs about 7psi more to be complete. time to get shit straightened out. stay tuned for my update tomorrow.

Beagles
The suspense is killing me:p

2ndgenlude
quote:
Originally posted by Beagles
The suspense is killing me:p


lol. its 320whp right now, so it will still be fun till end of summer. this just means i can bring it out to a few meets finally. don`t have any more patience for AFI. i should bring a camera/ sound recorder in there tomorrow lol.

pooptart
you have grounds Tyler. If you really need some help i could give you some guidence of how to get the whole thing started. It actually only takes a couple hours to get everything set up for some legal action.

2ndgenlude
car is out of the shop. martin wasn't there, but i told a employee im taking the car, grabbed my key off the wall and drove off. i will be expecting a phone call soon lol. i have to wait for my new motor mounts to come in before i drive it around though. only about 2 more weeks till they show up.

mike3
Haha so you didn't pay for anything?

2ndgenlude
don't have to. he owes me $1350. for injectors/ dent he has to pay to fix on the 1st. he already owed me the tune. only things extra on the car now is a turbosmart boost controller and a hondata 4 bar map sensor. what really pissed me off is it was in the exact same place i parked it last thursday. didn't move at all. even the key was in the same spot. unbelievable. o well. its out. and its fast lol. wish i could rip around in it but the mounts scare me. still needs a tune to finish it off though. 13psi isn't enough :P

hes going to be pissed when he gets back to the shop and notices the car gone though....if he even notices. :rolleyes:

Gargoyle25
so can i have a ride in it? :D

will you be able to bring it to the end of sept meet with the new mounts?

2ndgenlude
mounts should be in in time. if not i will buy a big ratchet strap to keep the engine from moving. ghetto, but it will work lol.

Gargoyle25
so i get i ride? :D

2ndgenlude
lol, sure

Gargoyle25
it might sound lame, but i've never really been in a fast car before, so i would really like to

i think my car is the fastest car i've ever been in

no wait, i was in an old charger when i was little, but that was when i was like 12, and i really don't think the guy sped let alone accelerated very fast

2ndgenlude
lol. ya my car would be a rush if you havn't been in anything really quick.

Gargoyle25
no kidding, my car gives me a rush sometimes, when it down shifts at the right time, it feels like it really goes, kinda sad considering what i bet your car feels like, probably even your civic

2ndgenlude
heres a quick video from last year. somewhere between 240-270whp. i had a exhaust leak since the manifold was cracked when the vid was taken. its quick a bit quicker now.

super shitty cell phone quality though.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/...pper_137793.htm

Gargoyle25
yeah, you need to take me for a ride :D

NightmareMX6
Remember Tyler I get first ride

Gargoyle25
tell you what, i'll give you a ride in my car if you give me a ride in yours :D

Beagles
Give goldilocks a ride :limpwrist

2ndgenlude
lmao. im going to have to start charging for rides it looks like lol. its not THAT quick right now. its fast, but not mind blowing or anything. still impressive though.

walkur1
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
its not THAT quick right now


So you won't mind if I take it for a rip? :D:D :lol:

Gargoyle25
i think i've shown that fast is very subjective, i would be surprised if my car had 100whp, and at times i think it it kinda fast, so do you think I think your car is fast? it only has about 3X more power

2ndgenlude
you just get used to the power after awhile. it feels fast in the beginning, but after a week your like WTF, where did all my power go and really its still there....lol

on 240ish whp i pulled on a m3, must have been that gay dsg transmission, and a young girl was driving too. also pulled on a s2000 fairly hard. . it really doesn't start to shine till 3rd gear though. 1st and second don't last long.

Ayeso
Come to the track today tyler :D maybe we can work on your tune a bit, last time we worked on steves, and I will be out tuning mine a bit as well.

2ndgenlude
i would but my mounts are fucked. and i don't have a helmet. engine rocks quite a bit just revving in neutral. don't think i would pass tech. how many track days are left this year? i definately want to make a few. mounts are a week or 2 away . i definitely want to open it up with a 18-20 pound tune though.

Ayeso
ur mounts are that bad? which ones do you need? I have stock H22 mounts you can have probably... at least the drivers side i should have.. maybe not I dont know lol not many days left :P

2ndgenlude
even martin told me he was worried due to the amount the engine was moving on the dyno. i havn't taken a really good look at it yet though so im not sure which ones. . i ordered a aftermarket mount kit from explicit speed performance with 70a inserts. there was a 2 week wait on them and i ordered them a little over a week ago, so im hoping i get them soon. my PCV line is running to the ground right now too. i have a catch can in my room i have to install. i was going to go over the whole car this weekend. If i don't come out tonight i will be out next friday more then likely.

2ndgenlude
just checked and they run street legals until the 27th. thats the last day.

Gargoyle25
yeah, they say you always want more power, i know i do, sometimes it feels like enough, but not that often, thats why i'm getting that h22 :D i can't wait to start that project, i just need money first, and the engine

Gargoyle25
i'm betting he hasn't called you about you taking your car because either he didn't notice it was gone, or now that it's gone he won't be fixing that damage or getting the rest of that stuff he owes you

2ndgenlude
no call. which just tells me he never gave a shit about the car. im just happy he doesn't have it anymore. it was funny how my car sat for how long and his personal truck was just completed. the whole shop is a joke. and if he doesn't pay to fix my panel i will take him to court for it. im not paying for something his shop caused. im pretty sure he will eat that bill though. hes getting it on the 1st.

Gargoyle25
that's good, make sure you get all the stuff he still owes you

mike3
Make sure you have pics of the car before it gets fixed.

2ndgenlude
transform won't fix it until AFI pays in full. thats what will told me lol

Beagles
good luck with that eh?

fugumerkur
Wow!

Just read the whole adventure.!

Now I don't feel bad posting in STIPWR's so you think your the fastest thread saying the Truck is a useless redneck waste of money!

I guess you see where the priorities were!

nismokutz
haha. as soon as i read the first post i knew that all that would of happened. AFI is a joke. i dont know if its true but i've heard that he's blown a few cars up and one a couple of times.

AcousticAudio
I just read all of this. Crazy biz. Thought Martin seems like a well meaning and honest guy, he doesn't seem to deliver.. My hunt for a good shop to get my car tuned at continues I guess.

project.D.
Wow...unbelievable...kudos to you 2ndgen for staying cool amidst all of AFI's bullshit. An absolutely horrible experience on your part...and still not a word from him?

That's one hell of a shop, stay away.:blink:

NightmareMX6
Well I just got my ride in the car. And it is fast wow. Once boost hit you hit the back of the seat. That clutch is so hard to drive lol. I can't wait till you get the 20psi tune :bowdown:

Beagles
nvm

2ndgenlude
ya. car even surprised me tonight. it pulls nicely lol. get that nice suck you back in the seat feeling. turbo is making weird noises. almost sounds like grinding. might be time for a rebuild. could just be a exhaust leak though. its not blowing smoke so im probably good for now. AFI missed a bolt on the turbo flange though. off to rona i go tomorrow lol.

Beagles
Its stories like this that make me wanna never touch my car, and go out n buy something mean and monstrous stock...

2ndgenlude
quote:
Originally posted by Beagles
Its stories like this that make me wanna never touch my car, and go out n buy something mean and monstrous stock...


meh, shit happens. remember. i have a 400whp beast for less then 30 grand. my civic was 30 grand and my prelude puts it to shame :)

after driving it i feel better about the whole situation. still right pissed off at AFI though.

Beagles
yeah... a great buddy of mines dad knows a Free Lance Honda guy that im thinking about going to.... I dont really have much trust for shops, and even though i could probably get some labor discounts out of Alberta Honda, the price of labor is still ridiculous.

Ideally, i'd like a shop with a lil 50+ asian man who came over from asia to work on the cars he group up with :P

But i doubt i'd ever find such a man

Gargoyle25
if you find the guy like that Keegan, let us all know :)

so when do i get my ride in the car?:D

2ndgenlude
when do you want one? lol. meet me on the southside one day and i can take you for a spin. or the meet next weekend. still need to decide what to do though.

walkur1
Give us all rides? haha, we'll have to go somewhere out of town so you can open it up. Either that or Aiport meet, cruise to wings/food somewhere.

walkur1
Give us all rides... somewhere out of town so you can open it up :p
Really though, airport meet, then cruise to wings/food somewhere?

BLitz86
You should take some pics of under the hood and the setup and stuff.

2ndgenlude
http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=83315

thats my forsale thread. has a bunch of pictures in it.




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