| 2ndgenlude |
well i did some calling/ visiting and got some issues on the prelude worked out.
I went down to AFI today with the quote from transform and martin said no problem. take it in and he will cover the bill 100%. also since there is no competent tuners around, i booked dyno time. im in on the 23rd, and im shooting for 400whp. i will be happy around 380ish though. hes going to install my turbosmart dual stage boost controller, injectors, 3 bar map sensor, and get it going. im hoping everything goes as it is supposed to. i left a message for the neighbour about the quote for the other side. i will post once i hear back from her. hopefully in 2 weeks i have a 400whp monster. almost sounds too good to be true though :P
nothing really gets me excited about the car anymore lol. |
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| Prudz_lude |
| i think once you drive with 400whp you will sell your civic and drive your ranger again as your dd. The way it should be :p |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by Prudz_lude
i think once you drive with 400whp you will sell your civic and drive your ranger again as your dd. The way it should be :p
never know lol. there was a WTB thread for a 07+civic si in black hahaha. that would be the biggest waste of money ever though. i take the huge depreciation hit and put 8k km's on it lol. |
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| Prudz_lude |
yah but every month you drive it more the lower it gets. in the end it is a civic, not a collectors car or even a sports car. Within 5 years that car will be worth very little compared to now. Probably less than 15k and you paid 30.
Where am i going with this you might ask? Get out while you still can LOL!!!!!!!! |
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| NightmareMX6 |
| Great to hear. I get the first 400hp ride, just incase lol :p |
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| Ushkie |
| I cant wait to see this thing go!! Good luck on the Dyno!!! |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by Ushkie
I cant wait to see this thing go!! Good luck on the Dyno!!!
thanks!
im pretty stoked. finally get the numbers i want out of the build hopefully :) |
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| redwall177 |
| so you have all that hp power what kinda torque you going to have hahaha |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by redwall177
so you have all that hp power what kinda torque you going to have hahaha
enough :D |
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| Beagles |
| Off topic- why does it say ushkie is banned? |
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| NESTLE |
quote:
Originally posted by Beagles
Off topic- why does it say ushkie is banned?
He tried rick rolling everyone
rick roll = ban |
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| Beagles |
| O_O... rick roll ban.. ouch |
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| redwall177 |
| so you say maybe like 300lbs of torque hmm not bad |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| just dropped it off at AFI tonight, and martin said it should be done friday. we are going to keep it under 20psi just because its ion pump gas. maybe later i will do a c16 tune. we shall see. anyways i can't wait :) |
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| Beagles |
lol with all that power, we wont be able to keep up to you while crusing...
Well... i wont =P |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by Beagles
lol with all that power, we wont be able to keep up to you while crusing...
Well... i wont =P
lol, you would probably be faster then me on the street with my shitty falkens. no traction. he figures i will be right around 400whp. turbo is a decent size, but only time will tell. i will be happy with high 300's. |
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| Gargoyle25 |
quote:
Originally posted by Beagles
lol with all that power, we wont be able to keep up to you while crusing...
Well... i wont =P
heh heh, me either, how many kms you have anyway Keegan? I'm over 327,000 :D
can't wait to see either of you guys' ludes |
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| redwall177 |
| oh tyler i will try my hardest to keep up with you but if my truck dont do it i get the other power to weight thing i have which is way better |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| im going to phone him after lunch. thats what he told me to do on wednesday, so i have my fingers crossed lol. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| martin just called me. he said it will be ready tomorrow. hes installing everything today, and calling me tomorrow so i can go down and watch the dyno. looks like im rolling in the civic tonight. |
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| Gargoyle25 |
| do you know when it'll be on the dyno? would it be weird if other people came? |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| not sure on time. as for watching i don't see a problem with that. i will post when i find out. another update is the girl that backed into it is going to go through her insurance to fix it. her company phoned me today and a adjuster is going to come take a look. |
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| Gargoyle25 |
| ok let us know when you know, altho i am leaving for Calgary around 10 i think, so i probably won't be able to, sucks, but i might come back with a "new" car :D |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by Gargoyle25
ok let us know when you know, altho i am leaving for Calgary around 10 i think, so i probably won't be able to, sucks, but i might come back with a "new" car :D
ya it will most likely be after 10. i can't see martin going super early on a Saturday lol. what are you looking at in calgary? |
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| Realistic |
i just stumbled into this section and read up on the thread.. and I must say.. Holy fucking shit.
20psi and 400whp. thats fuckin nuts.
I'm lookin to have my lancer around 13-15 and just over 300hp.. i hope to have it someday, but it'll be a while aways yet. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by Realistic
i just stumbled into this section and read up on the thread.. and I must say.. Holy fucking shit.
20psi and 400whp. thats fuckin nuts.
I'm lookin to have my lancer around 13-15 and just over 300hp.. i hope to have it someday, but it'll be a while aways yet.
lol, its been quite the journey to get the car where it is. 2 years and $20k later and this is where it sits. making power in a honda is quite expensive :p
im just hoping everything goes well and i don't throw a rod or something on the dyno tomorrow. 400hp should be mind blowing once traction starts :) |
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| Gargoyle25 |
| i'm looking at a red 91 SR with a blown motor, it has a really nice body tho, it might be a parts car for my running lude at first, but later i want to throw an h22 into it, we'll see how it goes |
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| fartcannon |
quote:
Originally posted by Realistic
i just stumbled into this section and read up on the thread.. and I must say.. Holy fucking shit.
20psi and 400whp. thats fuckin nuts.
I'm lookin to have my lancer around 13-15 and just over 300hp.. i hope to have it someday, but it'll be a while aways yet.
There have been honda preludes hitting 400whp at 10psi on pump gas. |
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| Beagles |
| So how did the tune go? |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| hasn't called me yet |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| no car yet....i phoned martin on sat around 630 and he was working on it. saying he was going over everything so i don't have any more problems. no idea whats going on though. im going to head over around lunch and see what the story is. |
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| fartcannon |
| i can't say i am suprised :lol: |
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| Gargoyle25 |
| where is your car anyway? who's tuning it? |
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| 2ndgenlude |
its at AFI Performance on the southside. it should be done for sure today, but you never know with them :P
the owner martin is doing the tuning. |
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| Gargoyle25 |
| i assume they put it together as well? so are they a good place to go? quality work and what not? do they do engine swaps? :D |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by Gargoyle25
i assume they put it together as well? so are they a good place to go? quality work and what not? do they do engine swaps? :D
long.....long....long story. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
you can start here
http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=78205
drama starts on page 6
http://forums.780tuners.com/showthr...;threadid=83024
its everywhere in there.
BUT. he is still trying to correct everything and i will give my final verdict when the car is back in my hands. Ive been through a lot with them. ive been dealing with martin about the same car for 2 years now. lots of bad, some good too. he is probably the best fabricator in town for a performance shop. i love my exhaust/ dumptube/ IC piping. but i will hold back until everything is done. then i can give a honest review about my whole ordeal. |
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| Xx D-MAN xX |
| So, is the tune complete? Since you haven't posted, I presume no... |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| not yet. not sure what hes up to actually. will put up details tonight. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
well update....
i went in there at lunch today to check on progress. truth it there was none. old injectors still installed, old map sensor installed, nothing changed about the car at all. martin was out on a parts run so i couldn't talk to him. car looked it was judt pulled into the shop. its sitting on the dyno side, and even if he is getting parts for it right now im still pissed. he told me he was working on it sat night, as well as fri night. obviously not the case.
this puts me in a really bad spot. i have a insurance adjuster supposed to come look at it tomorrow at the house so they can cut me a check to get the rear fixed. thats obviously not going to happen..... |
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| fartcannon |
:lol:
get the adjuster to come to the shop.
I really have nothing else to say. |
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| mike3 |
Thats sucks. I hate it when people lie. Just say that you havn't got around to it yet, and give a date when you will.
Just get the Adjuster/Appraiser to come look at the car a different day....happens all the time |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by mike3
Thats sucks. I hate it when people lie. Just say that you havn't got around to it yet, and give a date when you will.
Just get the Adjuster/Appraiser to come look at the car a different day....happens all the time
ya i just phoned the appraiser. hes going to AFI tomorrow morning instead of my place. its still a giant piss off though. and ya, don't lie. tell me when your working, and tell me when your not. |
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| Gargoyle25 |
| yeah, i'd say that he isn't someone i'd want to deal with, i'd rather someone tell me the truth, even if it's something i don't want to hear, than lie to me |
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| Beerking |
Hurray for shitty Edmonton tuners. I hope you get your ride back SOON, if I was you I would have gone ape shit long time ago.
But, really what else can you do...:dunno: |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| well i went in at lunch again. car was just being strapped down. should be ready by the time im off work. he predicts around 15psi on pump gas and mid 300's for power. i would be happy with that for awhile. pump gas limits what kind of boost you can run. and with some of the shitty gas in edmonton right now, 15psi is a safe level. i could probably push 17psi, but we will see. heres hoping to some decent results. |
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| Gargoyle25 |
| if you are talking about octane level, the husky on ellerslie and 91st has 94, unless i'm out of town that's the only place i go for gas, uh, i just get regular tho |
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| walkur1 |
Why isn't he doing the 400whp tune? I thought you already had the 300whp done... what the hell :confused:
Your poor car... :geezuz: |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by walkur1
Why isn't he doing the 400whp tune? I thought you already had the 300whp done... what the hell :confused:
Your poor car... :geezuz:
my car was at 240whp at 7psi. i should net around 360whp on 15psi. the highest my car has ever been was last summer at 9psi for 277whp. i will be spinning all through 2nd and part of 3rd at 15-16psi. more then enough for the street. i could always do a c16 tune and see like 25-30psi haha. i would need a bigger turbo to make it worthwhile though.
only reason im not running more boost this time around because im being conservative on pump gas. anything higher and i would need to run race fuel. i don't want to tune on husky 94 due to it not being readily available. i don't want to limit myself to a few select gas stations. |
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| fartcannon |
| thats still plenty of power :thumbup: |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by fartcannon
thats still plenty of power :thumbup:
o ya, it shall be fun haha.
well i did a surprise visit when i got off work early at 3pm. it was strapped to the dyno at noon, but at 3 it was off the dyno parked in front of the shop. with no parts installed.....he looked surprised to see me. caught him with his pants down so to speak. i asked him what was going on and he said he had a mustang tune to do or something, and a employee hadn't installed the parts yet on the prelude ( 30mins max to do injectors and map sensor) . kinda hard when the car isn't in the shop too. he still told me it would be done tonight, but i highly doubt it. one thing after another. i don't really want to get it tonight anyways since its wet out and i would end up writing it off more then likely with new power levels, but still. i don't understand why its so hard to get people to actually work. |
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| fartcannon |
| because martin thinks your car is a joke....thats a good start. That shop is a joke. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by fartcannon
because martin thinks your car is a joke....thats a good start. That shop is a joke.
thats probably it. So frustrating...i was told i would have the car back last friday. |
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| walkur1 |
| Take it back this Friday, done or not. Talk to Verlen at Speedtech and book some time down at their shop in Calgary... I haven't heard anything bad about them, but I also haven't done any research... |
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| redwall177 |
| HAHA OMG verlen that is funny dont talk to him just talk to guys in calgary haha |
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| walkur1 |
| I've never had any issues with Verlen... or any of the other guys there. Either way, I think Speedtech is a valid option at this point... but that's just IMO. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| well a problem has arisen. martin said he went to start it and move it into the shop and when it was in reverse there was a really bad grinding sound, but goes away after a second. he then took it around the block and it does it at a half throttle stab, it grinds for a second and then hooks up like a axle is slipping for a second. im guessing the OEM LSD is on its way out. which sucks big time. Im going to have to start building a new tranny. if its really bad im going to have to get on it right away. if anyone has a h23 tranny lying around let me know. then i will have to price out a quaife and go from there. unless i run it open diff. but high power and open diff i won't go anywhere. opinions? its still getting tuned though. hopefuly it holds together. its not too bad yet, but i have no idea how it will progress. |
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| walkur1 |
Get AWD installed... That would be sweet.
I should have kept my old engine, as I could have probably sold it all by now. I don't have anything that will help ya, but I think there is no question when it comes to LSD. Hopefully it won't cost you another arm and leg. Does this turn of events throw off your tuning timetable? Think you'll have it all done by the end of the summer? |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by walkur1
Get AWD installed... That would be sweet.
I should have kept my old engine, as I could have probably sold it all by now. I don't have anything that will help ya, but I think there is no question when it comes to LSD. Hopefully it won't cost you another arm and leg. Does this turn of events throw off your tuning timetable? Think you'll have it all done by the end of the summer?
its on the dyno right now, im just hoping it stays together. as long as the tranny holds i will have it back today. as for how long the tranny will last, i guess i will see. im talking to jdm source in calgary right now to see if they have a tranny in stock. worse comes to worse i run open diff this summer and install a LSD over the winter. |
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| SUPRAMAN |
| shitty deal with AFI fucking you around. Hope it works out. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by SUPRAMAN
shitty deal with AFI fucking you around. Hope it works out.
ya, me too. im just hoping my diff doesn't blow into a million pieces on the dyno. tranny swaps suck. good news is h23 trannys are taller geared and a lot cheaper then the h22 ones. just be without lsd for awhile. |
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| Beagles |
| Isn't a quafie lsd like 10 times better than stock though? (I believe this is adams wordz of wisdom) |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by Beagles
Isn't a quafie lsd like 10 times better than stock though? (I believe this is adams wordz of wisdom)
ya it is. it also has a $1000 price tag uninstalled. |
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| Beagles |
But isn't getting a non lsd tranny + aftermarket lsd just as expensive as getting a oem tranny with lsd?
Then again, i only think this because i saw h22 lsd trannies for like 2grand. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
i paid 1300 for my lsd tranny. a h23 tranny will be around 300, lsd is 1000, plus you have to take apart the whole tranny and get it installed. a task someone who knows what they are doing has to do. most likely i would go to honda to get it done if blaine still works there. it will probably be 500-1000 for the lsd install. i would also get new synchros. so basically a
oem lsd tranny- 1300
h23 lsd tranny- around 2000-2300. |
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| Beagles |
| ouch, you could upgrade your turbo + inter cooler for that much. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| tranny was a false alarm. i went for a rip in the car with martin and it was actually clutch chatter. the employee thought it was the diff, but no. didn't act up at all while i was in it. thats a hugh sigh of relief. but the injectors he bought don't fit in the fuel rail. wrong style. he either got sent the wrong ones, or ordered the wrong ones. not sure. anyways im on the lookout for injectors shipped overnight but it seems to be hard to get a hold of someone with some. waiting to hear back from a few shops about availability. |
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| Beagles |
| Well im glad the only thing wrong so far is wrong style injectors! |
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| fartcannon |
quote:
Originally posted by Beagles
ouch, you could upgrade your turbo + inter cooler for that much.
:lol: wtf keagan. i don't know if you are serious or joking. |
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| Beagles |
| Lol i dont fucking know anymore, im just going to stop posting. Im tired, and i cant walk well. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
:lol:
he is right though. 2300 would get me a nice ballbearing turbo and a nice manifold. intercooler is fine :p |
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| Gargoyle25 |
should i look at getting a h23 tranny? i need one for the engine i'm getting, so they bolt right up, no big deal?
oh wait, is there fitment issues with a 3rd gen swap? |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| yep. f series fit too. h22 tranny has shortest ratios so best for na, h23 has longer ones. better for boost. |
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| Beagles |
| Lol people talk about the massive lack of track with just the stock motor... boost and ud need some cement on the front end lol:p |
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| mike3 |
| Hopefully everything with the tranny is fine. If you have any problems with the Tranny I still have my H23 tranny in my garage |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| i think it should be fine. also ordered some precision 880cc injectors today. should here in a few business days. |
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| SUPRAMAN |
| So have u Dyno that hot rod yet? |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| nope. waiting on injectors. they are 2-3 days away. thats all im waiting for. |
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| 4thGenLude |
| 8 days later... |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| no kidding. its starting to be a piss off. then again its always a piss off. no injectors yet. can't say im surprised though. nothing is ever on time when it comes to the prelude. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| well i got the injectors today. they might be the wrong ones though. there not a pintle tip, but martin said he should be able to do it. they are going in tomorrow, then tune on the weekend i would say. |
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| Ayeso |
| which weekend? 3rd Weekend of December 2009? |
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| fartcannon |
quote:
Originally posted by Ayeso
which weekend? 3rd Weekend of December 2009?
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| sick_boy |
| let us know how its all turned out.... all this was an interesting read aobut AFI, read all of your forums about AFI and what they did and how they fucked up also reall sorry to hear about your luck man, i was planning to take my lexus there this winter.... |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by sick_boy
let us know how its all turned out.... all this was an interesting read aobut AFI, read all of your forums about AFI and what they did and how they fucked up also reall sorry to hear about your luck man, i was planning to take my lexus there this winter....
ya, its been quite the journey so far lol. hopefully i get the car back Monday/Thursday. i think i saw you the other day too. going north up castledowns road. i remember a black is300 with a FMIC. |
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| sick_boy |
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
ya, its been quite the journey so far lol. hopefully i get the car back Monday/Thursday. i think i saw you the other day too. going north up castledowns road. i remember a black is300 with a FMIC.
i dont think it was me i dont really go to that part of town, there is one more black turbo is300 running around edmonton, but last time i checked it was sitting at AFI :lol: with a blown second turbo in a row.... |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by sick_boy
i dont think it was me i dont really go to that part of town, there is one more black turbo is300 running around edmonton, but last time i checked it was sitting at AFI :lol: with a blown second turbo in a row....
hmm... all i remember is a black/ dark color is300 with a front mount lol. can't remember when it was though. within the last 2 weeks. anyways im heading into AFI tomorrow and hoping everything is installed. if not im going to have to bitch him out pretty hard. |
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| sick_boy |
| i hope everything works out for you |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| well i went over there today. injectors are installed, map sensor was being a bitch but a shop employee has a hondata 4bar hes going to let me use. it should be on the dyno tomorrow morning best case scenario. |
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| Beagles |
| lol dont forget the worse case... |
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| 2ndgenlude |
quote:
Originally posted by Beagles
lol dont forget the worse case...
very true. im just hoping for the best lol. |
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| Gargoyle25 |
| are you honestly expecting it to be done before Christmas? not sure if i would |
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| walkur1 |
I'd start writing Santa...
... for Russian vodka, rags, a cuban cigar and a zippo.
:flamesuit
Obviously so you can drink your sorrows away as you work on your civic, using the rags provided, while smoking the cigar :lol: |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| martin phoned me today. it was on the dyno but i had a substantial exhaust leak between the turbo and manifold. flanges arn't true i guess. anyways hes looking for a gasket and thats pretty much all thats holding it back. but i do have all the items on said list, haha |
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| Beagles |
| jesus this makes me never want to modify the car lol... |
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| Gargoyle25 |
| ^ me too kinda, it should be ok as long as you listen to opinions on places, in other words, don't go to this place... |
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