| TRD |
| 3 days ago i was on my way to a job interview heading up the ramp on yellowhead/156st then all the sudden i saw a manhole that was sticking out but around the edge it was cover by cement so that it would be safer while going over it. anyway the angle of the manhole seemed kinda big so i tried to move around it but i failed and i went over the manhole and it pop my low profile tire, so i was wondering if the city would pay for my tire, and how can i contact them because i dont know which number to call to talk to the city about this. |
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| Ayeso |
Pothole Damage Claims
Each spring potholes appear on Edmonton streets. The frequency of dramatic freeze/thaw cycles, combined with more traffic and deteriorating infrastructure, create ideal conditions for the creation of potholes.
The City currently has 10 roadway maintenance crews dedicated full-time to pothole repair. Council decisions to undertake a road remediation program in 2007 and increased funding for snow removal in the 2007/2008 snow removal budget has decreased the number of potholes.
Claim History
In 2007, 1,033 pothole claims were presented to the City - of these 85% were denied.
The total payout for the year for all pothole claims was $103,040 with an average payout of $665.
The most common damage was to tires and struts.
Make a Pothole Claim
The Risk Management Section of the Law Branch investigates and settles all claims made against the City. To ensure claims are legitimate, claimants are required to submit a completed claim damage form.
Claims can be reported by calling the 24-hour hotline at 780-496-5130. However, the claim form must still be completed and submitted.
Statement of Damage or Injury Claim Form
Claim Evaluation
The City evaluates claims through a rigorous and fair process that ensures claims are legitimate and the City is actually responsible. Claims are paid only after going through the evaluation process, to ensure the City has properly assessed its level of responsibility for an incident.
Provincial law outlines the City’s responsibility and liabilities and sets a reasonableness standard with respect to the repair of roadways. City claims adjusters carefully review each pothole claim in context of the provincial legislation.
Provincial Liability Conditions
Claims must be reported within 30 days of the date of incident.
The City is liable only if it knew, or ought to have known, of the state of disrepair.
The City is not liable for damage caused by a system of inspection, or the manner in which the inspections were performed.
The City is not liable for damage caused by a system of maintenance, or the manner in which the maintenance is to be performed.
The City is not liable if it can prove it took reasonable steps to prevent the disrepair from happening.
The character of the road, and the area of the city in which it is located, are both factors that are to be used in establishing the reasonableness standard.
There is some accountability on drivers to watch where they are driving to avoid potholes as long as this can be done safely.
Key Points
Damages caused by potholes are not immediately paid by the City. Each damage or injury claim is evaluated according to provincial legislation to ensure the City is actually responsible.
The City is careful and fair when following its duties under provincial legislation.
Appeal a Denied Claim
Should a claim be denied the claimant can have the decision reviewed by a manager within the Risk Management Section. If the claim is still denied, the claimant can initiate an action in Provincial Court in an attempt to recover damages.
For more information contact
Should there be questions about the City’s pothole claim process, contact the City’s Director of Risk Management at 780-496-5139 or e-mail don.marshall@edmonton.ca[/email]
For feedback on general transportation issues, please e-mail [email]transportation@edmonton.ca |
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| AuZZZie |
Who has reported a pothole recently?
I need one that has been reported and not fixed. My right entire front wheel is fucked thanks to this fucking city.
From what i read above they have so many loop holes out of paying its not even funny.
City roads are fucking pathetic. |
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| SerbianEagle |
Not a pothole but similar...
I was driving east on yellowhead 2 weeks ago just past the casino and after passing the first intersection I hit something. The car shook and the cd player even stopped working for a few seconds.
Anyway, I turned around and went back to see what the hell it was. Our wonderful road construction crews didn't bother putting up any Construction or Uneven road signs and they just repaired a section of road maybe a 1.5 m wide and left it about 1.5 inches higher that the rest. I hit at 75Km/h.
Luckily no damage, but how irresponsible to:
1. Not put up any signs
2. Leave the road in that condition after "fixing" it. |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by SerbianEagle
Not a pothole but similar...
I was driving east on yellowhead 2 weeks ago just past the casino and after passing the first intersection I hit something. The car shook and the cd player even stopped working for a few seconds.
Anyway, I turned around and went back to see what the hell it was. Our wonderful road construction crews didn't bother putting up any Construction or Uneven road signs and they just repaired a section of road maybe a 1.5 m wide and left it about 1.5 inches higher that the rest. I hit at 75Km/h.
Luckily no damage, but how irresponsible to:
1. Not put up any signs
2. Leave the road in that condition after "fixing" it.
I see that all the time. My other personal favourite is giant rocks on the roads from the crews.
Im not paying a fucking cent for this wheel. I don't care how long it takes me. People need to waste the city's time like they waste our time and money. |
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| GOT BOOST |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
Who has reported a pothole recently?
I need one that has been reported and not fixed. My right entire front wheel is fucked thanks to this fucking city.
From what i read above they have so many loop holes out of paying its not even funny.
City roads are fucking pathetic.
I think you are misinformed my friend.
The city does not have potholes....they have craters. :lol:
It should be "Report a crater" :lol: |
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| jzz30tt |
Yeah city's craters killed one rim on my Soarer that Egberts managed to fix
Just killed a rim on my civic too but it's just a hubcapped steelie so $44.07 later at walmart it's replaced.
It's a joke and they will do whatever they can not to pay. With my rim on the soarer they passed the blame to LaFarge who was sub'd to do the roadwork and laFarge said that their 50MM overlay.... yes 50mm was not capable of bending a rim.
They ignored me at that point and seeing as it only cost 113 dollars with egberts to repair i let it go.
You've got Volk GT-C's though if i recall so go hard. Don't pay a cent. |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by jzz30tt
Yeah city's craters killed one rim on my Soarer that Egberts managed to fix
Just killed a rim on my civic too but it's just a hubcapped steelie so $44.07 later at walmart it's replaced.
It's a joke and they will do whatever they can not to pay. With my rim on the soarer they passed the blame to LaFarge who was sub'd to do the roadwork and laFarge said that their 50MM overlay.... yes 50mm was not capable of bending a rim.
They ignored me at that point and seeing as it only cost 113 dollars with egberts to repair i let it go.
You've got Volk GT-C's though if i recall so go hard. Don't pay a cent.
GT-S. In a hard to get color and offset. Going to try get it too egberts today but I don't know if its fixable. I sure hope so.
How the fuck can they pass blame to the contractor? I didn't hire them. You didn't hire them. The city did. Take some fucking responsibility.
That's the reason we see the contract company's with 30 guys 5 of which actually work. |
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| 2HIGH~PSI |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
GT-S. In a hard to get color and offset. Going to try get it too egberts today but I don't know if its fixable. I sure hope so.
How the fuck can they pass blame to the contractor? I didn't hire them. You didn't hire them. The city did. Take some fucking responsibility.
That's the reason we see the contract company's with 30 guys 5 of which actually work.
man that sucks.. any pics? |
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| jzz30tt |
I know the blame shift was completely idiotic as you are responsible for your subs, but i wasn't going to pursue it for 113 bucks
you on the other hand have ample reason to pursue it.
Yeah what kind of damage do you have? Mine was thoroughly messed up, 3 inch long dent, 2 inch long dent, hub knocked crooked within the spokes but egberts managed to make it right again
Please tell me the damage isn't in the lip. |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by jzz30tt
Please tell me the damage isn't in the lip.
The damage is in the lip. The worste fuckin spot. So even if they can get the bend out my nice polished lip is probably going to look fucked up.
No Pics TJ. At the office. Will post some later. |
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| jzz30tt |
That's the only place i've seen Egberts not be able to get the wheel back to perfect.
I really hope they can help you out |
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| TRDTercelen |
| I did the same thing a couple of months back on that same manhole. Was following a transport in the morning and didn't have time to move after it appeared from under the 18 wheelers tires. Nailed my rim pretty good |
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| NESTLE |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
The damage is in the lip. The worste fuckin spot. So even if they can get the bend out my nice polished lip is probably going to look fucked up.
No Pics TJ. At the office. Will post some later.
thats actually a good spot for dish rims. get a towel, fold it a couple times place it on the flat spot and wack it with a sledgehammer. i know its sounds hillbillish but if works depending on how much dish you got. |
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| bananaboat |
quote:
Originally posted by TRD
3 days ago i was on my way to a job interview heading up the ramp on yellowhead/156st then all the sudden i saw a manhole that was sticking out but around the edge it was cover by cement so that it would be safer while going over it. anyway the angle of the manhole seemed kinda big so i tried to move around it but i failed and i went over the manhole and it pop my low profile tire, so i was wondering if the city would pay for my tire, and how can i contact them because i dont know which number to call to talk to the city about this.
Why should the city pay for your failure as a driver?
Instead of starting a thread asking how to get money from the city, you should start a thread asking for driving tips to avoid dangers on the road. That might be a bit more constructive. :dunno: |
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| SerbianEagle |
quote:
Originally posted by bananaboat
Why should the city pay for your failure as a driver?
Instead of starting a thread asking how to get money from the city, you should start a thread asking for driving tips to avoid dangers on the road. That might be a bit more constructive. :dunno:
The city FAILED to properly fix the damn road which is why he had to try and avoid the manhole cover. Go drive in Europe and see how many manhole covers stick 4 inches high. The powers that lead this city are clueless when it comes to road construction and design. |
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| bananaboat |
quote:
Originally posted by SerbianEagle
The city FAILED to properly fix the damn road which is why he had to try and avoid the manhole cover. Go drive in Europe and see how many manhole covers stick 4 inches high. The powers that lead this city are clueless when it comes to road construction and design.
The person who always passes the blame off will keep hitting potholes and keep getting the city (read: you and I) to pay. The person who simply learns to drive better just won't hit any potholes after the first. I know which one I'd rather be. |
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| TRD |
| it was practically impossible to go around it since i noticed it the last minute. who would expect to see something that big on an exit. well the bump that took out my tire is being fixed up now its practically gone since the city is working on yellow head trail. |
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| the_fornicator |
quote:
Originally posted by bananaboat
The person who always passes the blame off will keep hitting potholes and keep getting the city (read: you and I) to pay. The person who simply learns to drive better just won't hit any potholes after the first. I know which one I'd rather be.
what if you're following traffic and you notice within a second that there's a manhole protruding out of the ground (normally spans a good third of a lane)? you have mad traffic behind, beside and in front of you.
you can't swirve to avoid it otherwise you'll side swip the car beside you. You can't slam on the brakes otherwise you'll put the entire load on your front tires and do even more damage to your rim -plus, if you slam on the brakes, there's a pretty good chance that you'll cause a massive pile up.
sometimes these things are unavoidable.
how exactly would you learn to "drive better" in this instance? even if you tried to slam on the brakes to avoid the manhole, you will consequently be putting the public in danger jsut cause you want to save a hundred bucks. does that constitute "better driving"?
I think your comments are retarded cause it's like blaming a rape victim for getting raped. |
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| onelowvdub2.0 |
how about this one...
driving on 82 ave off of 50 street heading east (by afi) i used to work by there..heading down the road and dodging all the raised manholes....and there was one sunken in a bit so i thought it was ok to drive over it..but to my surprise the pavement around the manhole was sunken in as well and i hit the manhole doing about 60km's an hour..rear view mirror went flying off into the back seat..the front control arm bolt as well as the subframe was pushed back about 2 inches..and it also cracked my transmision mount right in half..
now i think i should call the hot line lol |
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| bananaboat |
quote:
Originally posted by the_fornicator
what if you're following traffic and you notice within a second that there's a manhole protruding out of the ground (normally spans a good third of a lane)? you have mad traffic behind, beside and in front of you.
you can't swirve to avoid it otherwise you'll side swip the car beside you. You can't slam on the brakes otherwise you'll put the entire load on your front tires and do even more damage to your rim -plus, if you slam on the brakes, there's a pretty good chance that you'll cause a massive pile up.
sometimes these things are unavoidable.
how exactly would you learn to "drive better" in this instance? even if you tried to slam on the brakes to avoid the manhole, you will consequently be putting the public in danger jsut cause you want to save a hundred bucks. does that constitute "better driving"?
I think your comments are retarded cause it's like blaming a rape victim for getting raped.
How about slowing down, leaving more room between the car in front and yourself, looking further ahead, and being more alert? The pothole can't move, but you can, so you're the only one who can prevent an accident.
Likening hitting a pothole to rape is like comparing speeding to killing. |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by bananaboat
How about slowing down, leaving more room between the car in front and yourself, looking further ahead, and being more alert? The pothole can't move, but you can, so you're the only one who can prevent an accident.
Likening hitting a pothole to rape is like comparing speeding to killing.
I'm glad life is so black and white for you. There are numerous spots in this city where it could be unavoidable.
And if your one of those people leaving 50ft space in peak hour traffic (since you never follow close enough to miss a pohole) then your another problem in this city. |
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| bananaboat |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
I'm glad life is so black and white for you. There are numerous spots in this city where it could be unavoidable.
And if your one of those people leaving 50ft space in peak hour traffic (since you never follow close enough to miss a pohole) then your another problem in this city.
I don't hit potholes and I am sharing with you my strategy for doing so.
Equating me with other driving crimes such as wasting road space in rush hour is as ridiculous as calling me a rapist. And no, I do not tailgate, but trust me, I try not to be a hindrance to other drivers. I can't stand when people leave tons of room in front of them, especially at slow intersections. The worst are drivers who don't move into the intersection for left turns on solid greens...
Now look, you've got me ranting... |
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| AuZZZie |
quote:
Originally posted by bananaboat
I don't hit potholes and I am sharing with you my strategy for doing so.
Equating me with other driving crimes such as wasting road space in rush hour is as ridiculous as calling me a rapist. And no, I do not tailgate, but trust me, I try not to be a hindrance to other drivers. I can't stand when people leave tons of room in front of them, especially at slow intersections. The worst are drivers who don't move into the intersection for left turns on solid greens...
Now look, you've got me ranting...
You've been ranting the whole time. You don't even make sense.
I've never hit a pothole to cause damage before either. So lets just agree where both born with super natural driving abilities because you've been lucky enough to never blow out a tire. :rolleyes: |
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| bananaboat |
quote:
Originally posted by AuZZZie
You've been ranting the whole time. You don't even make sense.
I've never hit a pothole to cause damage before either. So lets just agree where both born with super natural driving abilities because you've been lucky enough to never blow out a tire. :rolleyes:
I've blown a tire before, but it was from swerving into the shoulder in an area with construction. I picked up a nail in my tire.
I could have blamed the guy next to me who slowly drifted into my lane...but instead, I just accepted that I could have braked and dropped back instead of swerving into the shoulder. Was the other guy a shitty driver. Yes. But could I have done something different to avoid the nail in my tire? Yes as well.
Defensive driving is about driving to compensate for other peoples' fuckups. |
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| the_fornicator |
BANABABOAT IS A RAPIST!!!
but for real, you're a tool :lol: |
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| BigTrucker |
quote:
Originally posted by bananaboat
Defensive driving is about driving to compensate for other peoples' fuckups.
It's one thing to compensate for somebodys fuck up, its another to put yourself in danger when they make the mistake.
If I can avoid the collision your about to cause, I will do my best to avoid it, if I can't, thats why you have insurance. |
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| jutes85 |
| This whole fucking province is terrible for road conditions. You'd think the richest province in the country would have the nicest roads. Nope. I've been to almost every province in the country and Alberta is by far the worst. Even the repair jobs they do are horrible, they just patch the roads instead of tearing them apart and rebuilding. Try taking a note from BC, their roads are the nicest in the country, even the random backroads are smooth as silk. Harsh Alberta winters are not an excuse to leave the roads in such dismal shape. |
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| kevito_ |
| Buy a damn Hummer!! |
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