| BLOCKER |
It's about time!
I think we may see a new pony war!...woo! |
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| oldraven |
Shit. I just realised I'd forgotten to put 'Camaro' in the thread title.
*edit*
Can I get a mod to fix that? :beer: |
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| GOT SE-R |
| I love the exterior, but not feeling the interior at all. looks kinda weird. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by GOT SE-R
I love the exterior, but not feeling the interior at all. looks kinda weird.
The pre-production (prototype) interiors were even stranger. It looked like the dash was giving birth to a radio. |
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| GOT SE-R |
LOL.
Are those guages by the shifter on the bottom? Looks like a dumb place for readable gauges, but thats just me..
Still, I would drive one no problem :thumbup: |
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| Cyanide Ride |
That interior is way better than the Challenger.
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Originally posted by oldraven
Shit. I just realised I'd forgotten to put 'Camaro' in the thread title.
*edit*
Can I get a mod to fix that? :beer:
Yes, you can haz :D |
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| project.D. |
| Nice, I'm excited for the pony wars to come.:thumbup: |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by Cyanide Ride
That interior is way better than the Challenger.
Yes, you can haz :D
Tanx, mang. :thumbup:
Those console gauges are a throwback to the first generation.
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| GOT SE-R |
quote:
Originally posted by ehos
Bumblebee!!
HAHAHAHA!
Thats kinda cool to bring back the guages, but I still don't like the location. :D |
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| Silence* |
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Originally posted by ehos
Bumblebee!!
Bumblebee made me fall in love with the new Camaro :lol: |
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| Godzilla |
yet GM still dosn't have independant rear suspension in the corvette:confused: |
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| oldraven |
quote:
Originally posted by Godzilla
yet GM still dosn't have independant rear suspension in the corvette:confused:
I'd beg to differ. There are companies out there who make Solid Rears with Coil Springs too! :eek: What a world!
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| GOT BOOST |
The front is somewhat sharp.
The dash is a huge turn off for me.
I like the centre console.
The rear end remids me of a 1980 Chev Caprice :dunno:
These things will be the next Neon/SRT-r/Corvette/PT Cruiser/Civic. Everyone and their grandma will have one. |
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| BLOCKER |
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Originally posted by GOT BOOST
The front is somewhat sharp.
The dash is a huge turn off for me.
I like the centre console.
The rear end remids me of a 1980 Chev Caprice :dunno:
Just because it is not a 90's supra in peices does not make it ugly.. h8r :stickpoke
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Originally posted by GOT BOOST
These things will be the next Neon/SRT-r/Corvette/PT Cruiser/Civic. Everyone and their grandma will have one.
Agreed, just like the mustang, it will become a belly button car... everyone's got one! |
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| GOT BOOST |
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Originally posted by BLOCKER
Just because it is not a 90's supra in peices does not make it ugly.. h8r :stickpoke
Agreed, just like the mustang, it will become a belly button car... everyone's got one!
:lol:
Certain aspects of the car make it look like ass. Not good ass... but an ass that is usually associated with kankles.
H8TR out YO! |
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| ChromeDragon |
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Originally posted by Godzilla
yet GM still dosn't have independant rear suspension in the corvette:confused:
Uhhh, yeah they do. What planet do you live on? The Corvette has had IRS for several generations.
You're likely stuck on Jeremy Clarkson's words, but they didn't call the Corvette's rear suspension antiquated because it's a solid axle. They were complaining about leaf springs. |
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| Invalid Zero |
| And the leaf spring is transverse, meaning it's clamped in the middle and each hub uses one side as a spring. It's NOTHING like what you see under a pickup. |
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| ChromeDragon |
| Shit, the Corvette has had IRS since 1963. Long before it was commonplace in the industry. |
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| Rich_A |
ugh, that is one ugly car. did GM kidnap some jap's to build that interior?
the whole car just confuses me.. powerplant aside.
oh well.. it's a camaro so bitches will love it |
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| Godzilla |
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Originally posted by ChromeDragon
Uhhh, yeah they do. What planet do you live on? The Corvette has had IRS for several generations.
You're likely stuck on Jeremy Clarkson's words, but they didn't call the Corvette's rear suspension antiquated because it's a solid axle. They were complaining about leaf springs.
you basically get my drift, to me one spring between two wheels dosn't exactly scream IRS. but it is more so then a pickup truck. anyways, let's pretend i didn't say anything. |
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| tokes |
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Originally posted by Godzilla
you basically get my drift, to me one spring between two wheels dosn't exactly scream IRS. but it is more so then a pickup truck. anyways, let's pretend i didn't say anything.
Each wheel travels independantly of each other and they use half shafts. It's IRS.
The transverse leaf spring setup in the corvette is lighter than a coil spring, lowers the center of gravity, and reduces unsprung weight. They also act as an anti-roll bar so you can remove further weight from the car by having smaller or even no roll bars. Just my 2 cents, it seems like most people who rag on the Corvette rear suspension think leaf spring and picture a Willys jeep. |
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| Cheverz |
| :D Happy im suprised info came out so soon, I had hoped for a 427 :( oh well, look's like chevrolet has there mind's in the right place im diggin the hidden B-pillar as well i had heard however there was a push button start glad that isnt so car look's great and they didnt stray to far from the concept. Interior look's good compared to all my camaro's ancient and new interior's? So fuck it good in my book's cant wait to test drive one:thumbup: :lol: I hope the ''camaro vs mustang'' idealogy isnt sparked again i really do but i imagine theres gonna be lot's of people sportin the bowtie logo's soon enough. If chevrolet is as smart as i hope they will make a motion and i will be sold on it. |
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| oldraven |
Chevrolet wasn't related to Baldwin Motion. But yes, a Motion anything would be awesome right now. Saleen, Roush, Lingenfelter, Hennessey, they all are spiritual successors of Baldwin Motion. Shelby was always tied at the hip to Ford, just like he is now. He was no more independent than all of the CoPo dealers.
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Originally posted by Godzilla
you basically get my drift, to me one spring between two wheels dosn't exactly scream IRS. but it is more so then a pickup truck. anyways, let's pretend i didn't say anything.
Hey, this is 780. We all take our turn getting the shit kicked out of us for saying something stupid once in awhile. :beer:
And a Transverse Leaf is in no way a solid rear. IRS and Solid is determined by how the power is transmitted from the Differential to the Hub, not by the spring/damper setup. |
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| tokes |
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Originally posted by Cheverz
:D Happy im suprised info came out so soon, I had hoped for a 427 :( oh well, look's like chevrolet has there mind's in the right place im diggin the hidden B-pillar as well i had heard however there was a push button start glad that isnt so car look's great and they didnt stray to far from the concept. Interior look's good compared to all my camaro's ancient and new interior's? So fuck it good in my book's cant wait to test drive one:thumbup: :lol: I hope the ''camaro vs mustang'' idealogy isnt sparked again i really do but i imagine theres gonna be lot's of people sportin the bowtie logo's soon enough. If chevrolet is as smart as i hope they will make a motion and i will be sold on it.
With the Corvette ZR1 now the top dog for power, how much do you want to bet Chevy will stuff a "detuned" LS7 in the Camaro? :thumbup: |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by tokes
With the Corvette ZR1 now the top dog for power, how much do you want to bet Chevy will stuff a "detuned" LS7 in the Camaro? :thumbup:
I wouldn't bet on it. There was supposed to be a Z28 (I know, this should be below the SS) that was going to be LSA powered. The same detuned 550hp lump in the CTS-V, from the ZR-1. That was axed just before these pictures came out, so I'd say it'll be awhile before we see something over the SS, if ever. We'll see the LNF before either of the other engines. |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by Godzilla
you basically get my drift, to me one spring between two wheels dosn't exactly scream IRS. but it is more so then a pickup truck. anyways, let's pretend i didn't say anything.
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| kyoru |
| Looks awesome, not a fan of the interior but great job GM |
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| Godzilla |
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Originally posted by BLOCKER
:flamesuit
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Keane, why would you let EuroFTW on your account?:asshole: :thumbup: :beer: :bowdown: :mad: |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by Cheverz
I know motion wasnt part of chevrolet, But i hope they make it a model, anyways all we know is the RS package right now and that seams preety good the SS we yet to know anything about what power its packing, the talk of the Supercharged V8 and the turbo charged 4/6 cyl is still iin discussion and like toke's said it is possible for the lS7, As for the z28 it will come out you bet your ass and if it does i would imagine a more dostalgic motor would be under the hood 427 ect, ect, for know let's focus on the SS model and see what happens but i think it's preety much said chevrolet has back handed its competition.:thumbup: as well for those of you who do not know what a motion phase camaro is it's extremely rare and they run in the excess of 270,000 the last i seen one for sale. This car is the definition of bad ass.
Actually, we do know what power they'll be packing. Yet another press release today. :D
http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro.html
General Motors has officially taken the wraps of the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro. Although images and specs leaked on the modern day muscle car last week, we now have the official figures straight from the horse’s mouth.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/21/...ils-and-images/
You've waited long enough, so let's dispense with the pleasantries and get right down to the hard facts.
* Three models - LS, LT, SS
* LS and LT come with 3.6L direct-inject V6 (300 hp/273 lb-ft)
* SS six-speed manual comes with 6.2L LS3 V8 (422 hp/408 lb-ft)
* SS six-speed automatic comes with new 6.2L L99 V8 (400 hp/395 ft-lb) and Active Fuel Management
* 3.6L DI V6 gets 26 mpg highway
* 6.2L V8 with automatic gets 23 mpg highway
* RS appearance package available on LT and SS (includes HID headlamps with integrated halo rings, spoiler, specific taillamps and 20-inch wheels)
* Front and rear independent suspension
* FE2 suspension for LS and LT, sportier FE3 for SS
* Four-wheel disc ABS standard, SS gets four-piston Brembo calipers
* SS model gets adjustable Competitive/Sport mode for stability control and Launch Control on manual models
* Available 18-,19- and 20-inch wheels
As for the Z28, not so good of news.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/camaro-...28-is-dead.html
Baldwin Motion also made Motion Corvettes back in the day (before The Man shut him down in the 70's for letting people have too much extra-legal fun).
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3101.html |
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| BLOCKER |
quote:
Originally posted by Godzilla
Keane, why would you let EuroFTW on your account?:asshole: :thumbup: :beer: :bowdown: :mad:
I just wanted an excuse to use this little guy...
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| AudiInProgress |
| I don't like it. |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by AudiInProgress
I don't like it.
I had a feeling. No SRT version for you? |
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| Cheverz |
That no z28 suck's it hard oh well i guess, Maybe in a couple year's we'll see the good stuff pour out, im actually very impressed with the figures its putting down ''despite the fact i love camaros'', I would imagine there will be alot of upgrades available as well. Thank's for the info raven very much appreciated!
Edit : Any word on price's on the SS model's raven? |
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| AudiInProgress |
| I just don't like the ass end... And the interior is FUGLY. |
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| Cheverz |
quote:
Originally posted by AudiInProgress
I just don't like the ass end... And the interior is FUGLY.
better learn to like it rob you'll be behind them lot's soon enough,:lol: Jk :P i agree the ass end could do with some attention but when the full packaged deal is out it might have some changes or look better in person. Im diggin that silver oh what colours are gonna be optioned any word? |
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| AudiInProgress |
Challenger > Camaro
And I have nothing against Chevy!
My dream car is a 1969 Camaro RS/SS w/ 396 black with silver stripes. |
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| Cheverz |
I have a 1967 RS/SS that need's body work all original might restore it might sell it intrested?
Edit: As well my dream car is a 1969 Dodge charger R/T 440
Funny how that works:dunno: |
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| AudiInProgress |
Very funny.
Remember that insurance settlement I was telling you about privately? Well... I'm still fucking fighting over that shit. |
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| Cheverz |
| Shitty dealz, well if it ever works out my camaro is for sale its up for 10 u can have it for 9 with some added goodies ''the 86'' if your intrested. goodies being new headers, y pipe, roll bar's ect, |
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| c.f.169 |
| I dont like it . The front seems to pointed. Also the rear and interior :blink: |
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| oldraven |
quote:
Originally posted by c.f.169
I dont like it . The front seems to pointed. Also the rear and interior :blink:
:lol: Well, that covers pretty much everything, doesn't it? Aside from the powertrain, I guess. Who wouldn't like 400 torques?
Chevers, the V6 is "starting in the $20,000 range." I'd say they'll try to squeeze the SS in just under the $30K mark.
Scroll down and see a spec. sheet as complete (other than pricing) as you'll find on any website.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/21/...ils-and-images/ |
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| little_one_der |
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Originally posted by oldraven
...the V6 is "starting in the $20,000 range." I'd say they'll try to squeeze the SS in just under the $30K mark.
Scroll down and see a spec. sheet as complete (other than pricing) as you'll find on any website.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/21/...ils-and-images/
What, what, what. NO WAI!
You don't think it'll be around 40 when it actually gets to dealers? |
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-An advanced, efficient 3.6L direct-injected V-6 with variable valve timing is standard on LS and LT models
-Built on GM's new, global rear-wheel-drive architecture, the Chevrolet Camaro is offered in V-6-powered LS and LT models, as well as the V-8-powered SS. All models and powertrain combinations include fuel-saving six-speed transmissions.
-It is rated at an estimated 300 horsepower (224 kW) and 273 lb.-ft. of torque (370 Nm).
-The high-performance Chevrolet Camaro SS is equipped with a powerful 6.2L V-8, with a choice of a six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission. Standard, manual transmission-equipped models receive the LS3 engine, estimated at 422 horsepower (315 kW) and 408 lb.-ft. of torque (553 Nm)
2010 Chevrolet Camaro Specifications
* 3.6L V-6 DI VVT (LLT)
o Type: 3.6L V-6
o Displacement: 217 cu in / 3564 cc
o Horsepower: 300 hp / 224 kW @ 6400 rpm
o Torque: 273 lb-ft / 370 Nm @ 5200 rpm
o Maximum engine speed: 7000 rpm
* 6.2L V-8 (LS3, L99)
o Type: 6.2L V-8
o Displacement: 376 cu in / 6162 cc
o Horsepower: 422 hp / 315 kW @ 5000 rpm (LS3), 400 hp / 299 kW @ 5000 rpm (L99)
o Torque: 408 lb-ft / 553 Nm @ 4500 rpm (LS3), 395 lb-ft / 535 Nm @ 4500 rpm (L99) |
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| oldraven |
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Originally posted by little_one_der
What, what, what. NO WAI!
You don't think it'll be around 40 when it actually gets to dealers?
I think the Z-28 would have been over $40K. I know they're planning to slate it between a Mustang GT and an SRT-8 Challenger. I guess you're right. I don't see why a pushrod V8 would cost $10 grand more than a DOHC DI V6, but I'm sure they're going to wring every penny they possibly can from it (they really need to). |
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| The Stig |
That 422 HP is ringinly awefully close to my baby!
I AM excited about the car, and it's six speed controller! It looks great in pictures, and I'm sure in real life on the road it'll just be neck twistingly beautiful.
Why not break the f'n envelope and make it 7spd, make a damned statement.. it's just another powerbox with a 6spd and some "new age" interior... with the word Camaro on the back. 2010 man, not 2001. |
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| GOT SE-R |
| I still hate the interior is fugly! |
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| oldraven |
quote:
Originally posted by The Stig
That 422 HP is ringinly awefully close to my baby!
I AM excited about the car, and it's six speed controller! It looks great in pictures, and I'm sure in real life on the road it'll just be neck twistingly beautiful.
Why not break the f'n envelope and make it 7spd, make a damned statement.. it's just another powerbox with a 6spd and some "new age" interior... with the word Camaro on the back. 2010 man, not 2001.
Because that would be a waste of money to develop a 7-spd gearbox just to say you did. Leave that shit to $150K Mercedes, where it's expected to have first to market technology. Nothing this car is competing with will have a 7-spd manual. Not to mention it would have driven the price up another five or six thousand dollars, and made it a much harder sell over its rivals.
As it is, the car has so much torque that they've given it a skip-shift feature where it locks out 2nd and 3rd gear under normal acceleration (saves gas to idle around town in 4th). |
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| McTinkerson |
it has a torque gauge? Awesome. |
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| c.f.169 |
| So after looking at more pictures of the new Camaro, I would like to change my opinion. I do like the front end of the car, but the interior needs to be toned down a notch. |
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| Neo-Blue99GASE |
| First of all, the 6L80 is the standard tranny for all high output motors so there is no sense in producing a 7-speed. Second, the manual is explained why its used in pretty much every HO domestic. As for pricing, expect up here in canada for the base v6 to start at around 25 to 26K and the LS3 to start around 35k but likely going up to 40K with all the options. Why? Because the G8 runs similar engines and they are higher priced because they are family sedans as compared to a muscle car. Also, the LS3 is newer and more expensive than the LS2 which has been around since '04. The LS3 was only released in the '08 vette and has much more to it than a bore increase. |
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