| FS: H23 Engine/Auto tranny swap (80,000km) - Click HERE for Original Thread |
| fartcannon |
Hey guys i have an h23 engine out of a prelude and an auto tranny. It has 80,000km on it.
This sale will include the long block, wiring harness, ecu, injectors, fpr, intake mani, throttle body, h23 header/downpipe, everything you need. I want $900 for the long block and all that stuff. $200 more if you want the auto tranny. Axles will most likely be included.
PM if you are interested. :thumbup: |
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| fartcannon |
| just a heads up, this engine fits in a civic!! It's exactly like an h22 swap minus the vtec. its 160 hp and you can hook a manual transmission up to it. Its a great way to make your car much quicker. This engine should easily make a civic high 14's. |
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| fartcannon |
| price drop, $200 for the tranny, $600 for the engine. |
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| onelowvdub2.0 |
| still needs mounts though right ? |
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| 2ndgenlude |
| any h22 mount kit would work for a civic. its the same swap minus the vtec lol. still a tourqy motor. you could always put a h22 head on it too. |
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| onelowvdub2.0 |
| and a h2b kit..except the h23 bottoms arnt as fortified as the h22's only good for N/a |
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| fartcannon |
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Originally posted by onelowvdub2.0
and a h2b kit..except the h23 bottoms arnt as fortified as the h22's only good for N/a
That is completely false. The h23 bottom end is actually just as strong. The both have the same frm material in the cylinder walls. Both are aluminum blocks, both are equally as strong as the other. The difference between the two blocks is the crank. The h23 crank is not designed to spin to 8000k safely where the h22 is. Due to the difference in crank the compression is slightly lower as well.
This motor is good for h23vtec swaps as well. You can use the bottom end with an h22 head. The benefit is much more mid range torque over the h22. The down side is you can only rev to about 7000 rpm instead of 7500rpm. However, that mid range has proven to get better times on the track due to the midrange :D
Both motors can hold the same amount of boost. However, the h23 is actually an easier motor to tune do to the lower compression.
Please do not post incorrect information in my thread :thumbup: |
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| onelowvdub2.0 |
never owned one wouldnt know the full details..sorry for the mistake..i only heard the h23 wasnt good for boost and never investigated why it wasnt...now i know why most ricers wouldnt boost it..because if they werent revving to 8.5 k there no cool enough lolz
if i had my car sold i would be all over this trust me..been wanting to do a h2b for a while and i think now is the time to do it..looking for a shell also now so i could at least start...ohh and good price by the way |
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| fartcannon |
| All good, the more people informed the less incorrect information floating around....hopefully lol. The price is priced to sell ;) |
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| fartcannon |
| :blue: open to offers. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
its priced way too high. thats why no bites. hell you said 500 for ryans H22 was too much. and you want 900 for a H23? :lol:
as for the tranny, its not worth much at all. maybe 50 bucks. noone wants a auto h23 tranny.
i might sound like a ass, but its the truth. |
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| fartcannon |
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Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
its priced way too high. thats why no bites. hell you said 500 for ryans H22 was too much. and you want 900 for a H23? :lol:
as for the tranny, its not worth much at all. maybe 50 bucks. noone wants a auto h23 tranny.
i might sound like a ass, but its the truth.
No you sound wrong. Ryans h22 does not include the entire swap. It includes a block with rings that are shot in one of the cylinder making it worthless. I wouldn't pay more than $100 for his block. one cylinder needing new rings means a complete overhaul which costs 3-4k, hense it being worthless. What did he want? something like $400?
h23 with 80,000km on it freshly swapped in the car...includes tb,im,fpr,fi,fr,ecu,head,vc,block,and more....thats easily worth my asking price of $600....I could part it out for much more. If its not sold in a month it will be parted out and it will all sell pretty quickly. I have countless people on honda-tech and prelude power still pm'ing me for all the parts. Just can't sell it to them yet because i want to try and sell it as a whole.
If you think an auto tranny is not worth the price...wait until someone has a damaged auto tranny. They can pay $700 from ebay or a local shop or can buy mine for $200. Its their call.
Good try but fail. |
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| NathanRed |
| whats with all the hate? shit just let people sell there shit especially when we are in the same club |
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| fartcannon |
| lol i got no clue what that was about. Either way, tyler is completely wrong. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
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Originally posted by fartcannon
No you sound wrong. Ryans h22 does not include the entire swap. It includes a block with rings that are shot in one of the cylinder making it worthless. I wouldn't pay more than $100 for his block. one cylinder needing new rings means a complete overhaul which costs 3-4k, hense it being worthless. What did he want? something like $400?
h23 with 80,000km on it freshly swapped in the car...includes tb,im,fpr,fi,fr,ecu,head,vc,block,and more....thats easily worth my asking price of $600....I could part it out for much more. If its not sold in a month it will be parted out and it will all sell pretty quickly. I have countless people on honda-tech and prelude power still pm'ing me for all the parts. Just can't sell it to them yet because i want to try and sell it as a whole.
If you think an auto tranny is not worth the price...wait until someone has a damaged auto tranny. They can pay $700 from ebay or a local shop or can buy mine for $200. Its their call.
Good try but fail.
i didn't want to start a huge argument, but you insisted.
no, you have no idea what your talking about. ryans engine is fine and is complete minus tranny. all it needs is rings on 1 cylinder. a afternoon job. it runs fine, just burns oil. i had a auto h23 tranny, and tried to sell it. it won't sell period. i threw my old one in a dumpster due to it being worthless. i also had a auto trany swap. ive been through all of this. don't believe me? search. my threads are on here. don't try to tell me what i do and don't know. i could pick up a complete jdm h22 long block for $1000. with warranty.
also who in their right mind is going to swap their car to auto? the only prelude ive ever heard doing that was mine. and it was a special situation. its funny how you say everyone else's parts/engines are overpriced, then you go and try to sell a h23 for $900. |
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| fartcannon |
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Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
i didn't want to start a huge argument, but you insisted.
no, you have no idea what your talking about. ryans engine is fine and is complete minus tranny. all it needs is rings on 1 cylinder. a afternoon job. it runs fine, just burns oil. i had a auto h23 tranny, and tried to sell it. it won't sell period. i threw my old one in a dumpster due to it being worthless. i also had a auto trany swap. ive been through all of this. don't believe me? search. my threads are on here. don't try to tell me what i do and don't know. i could pick up a complete jdm h22 long block for $1000. with warranty.
also who in their right mind is going to swap their car to auto? the only prelude ive ever heard doing that was mine. and it was a special situation. its funny how you say everyone else's parts/engines are overpriced, then you go and try to sell a h23 for $900.
Lol fuck tyler, you are actually proving to be a big noob.
First, i thought you were smart enough to know you cant just replace the rings on an h22 block due to the frm material. Do you think you can magically replace the rings wihtout taking the piston out? Once its out you have to sleeve the damn block.
You threw out an engine because you couldn't sell it? That is so wasteful. Second, its not an auto engine....its an auto tranny seperate from the engine. You make it sound like the h23 can't be used with a 5 speed transmission. Third, not everyone wants a 5spd lude. Whats easier if its just your daily? A 5spd swap that will cost you probably close to $1000 or just paying $200 and swapping another auto tranny in?
I found it funny how lots of people thought i couldn't part my entire lude out....i made $9000.00 off parts. I sold the most random little pieces off of it. If you think i can't sell an h23 swap for $600, watch me make more off of it if i part it out.
Thanks for the hate, learn your shit before you bash my thread. |
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| fartcannon |
| Also, for the record? where is my hate on others threads? I hated on two overpriced civics....Ryans engine is also not an afternoon job. Replacing a ring in an h22 is more like a 2 month job. |
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| onelowvdub2.0 |
| this thread went to shit..for a project i think fart cannon's engine would be wicked seriously you can buy cheap h22 mounts off of ebay and buy an h2b kit for it as well which lets you put a wicked b-series tranny in it..even then it would be fast...let alone with a v-tec head on it.. for the money it is a great starting point..i sure wouldnt go and buy an h22 from a jap importer for 2g's then build it up.. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
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Originally posted by fartcannon
Lol fuck tyler, you are actually proving to be a big noob.
First, i thought you were smart enough to know you cant just replace the rings on an h22 block due to the frm material. Do you think you can magically replace the rings wihtout taking the piston out? Once its out you have to sleeve the damn block.
You threw out an engine because you couldn't sell it? That is so wasteful. Second, its not an auto engine....its an auto tranny seperate from the engine. You make it sound like the h23 can't be used with a 5 speed transmission. Third, not everyone wants a 5spd lude. Whats easier if its just your daily? A 5spd swap that will cost you probably close to $1000 or just paying $200 and swapping another auto tranny in?
I found it funny how lots of people thought i couldn't part my entire lude out....i made $9000.00 off parts. I sold the most random little pieces off of it. If you think i can't sell an h23 swap for $600, watch me make more off of it if i part it out.
Thanks for the hate, learn your shit before you bash my thread.
i never said anything about throwing away a engine. i said i threw away my auto tranny. i never even had a h23. where did it say i threw away a engine? and FRM means shit. all that has to happen is a rehone, with a special technique. ive rehoned multiple blocks with a simple hone and a drill. ive rebuilt a chev v8, nissian 4cyl, and a oldsmobile v6. im pretty sure i know how to reassemble a bottom end. . you don't have to resleeve a h22. that is the stupidest thing ive ever heard. also you are in no position to call me a noob. i guess my car got where it did because i know nothing eh? i must be h22 illiterate. i've had a few h22 engines apart. i know what im doing.
also if you have to resleeve why does mike drive around with FORGED pistons in a stock h22 block. im surprised hes getting away with it though. hell, put stock pistons in, rings, bearings and your fine. who the hell told you you had to resleeve?
and yes, everyone wants a 5spd lude. name 1 person who would want to do a auto swap. absolutely no one. |
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| fartcannon |
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Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
i never said anything about throwing away a engine. i said i threw away my auto tranny. i never even had a h23. where did it say i threw away a engine? and FRM means shit. all that has to happen is a rehone, with a special technique. ive rehoned multiple blocks with a simple hone and a drill. ive rebuilt a chev v8, nissian 4cyl, and a oldsmobile v6. im pretty sure i know how to reassemble a bottom end. . you don't have to resleeve a h22. that is the stupidest thing ive ever heard. also you are in no position to call me a noob. i guess my car got where it did because i know nothing eh? i must be h22 illiterate. i've had a few h22 engines apart. i know what im doing.
also if you have to resleeve why does mike drive around with FORGED pistons in a stock h22 block. im surprised hes getting away with it though. hell, put stock pistons in, rings, bearings and your fine. who the hell told you you had to resleeve?
and yes, everyone wants a 5spd lude. name 1 person who would want to do a auto swap. absolutely no one.
Stock h22's with forged internals have blowby issues. Everyone reports having major blowby issues. FRM means something, not shit. Rehone....yah an 8hour hone job using 2 special types of rocks is such an easy job. Especially when it has to be cut at a certain angle for it to be successful. You can't just use some basic hone tool on an h22/h23 and have it work. All those engines you just mentioned you honed, yah....none of them have frm material on the cylinder walls.
You have a built h22 that a shop built for you and ripped you off on if you really want to get into it.
I'll dig up a few people who actually like having auto ludes. Hell, to top it off they are boost running 400whp and loving the auto lude.
Quit shitting in my thread tyler. I have talked to so many people outside of EPC who were offered to join and they say they would never dream of it because of shit like this. What kind of manager cuts up a members thread....
I am not even going to argue with you about this. Clearly you know everything about hone jobs since you clearly work for a machine shop. |
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| souriii |
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Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
i never said anything about throwing away a engine. i said i threw away my auto tranny. i never even had a h23. where did it say i threw away a engine? and FRM means shit. all that has to happen is a rehone, with a special technique. ive rehoned multiple blocks with a simple hone and a drill. ive rebuilt a chev v8, nissian 4cyl, and a oldsmobile v6. im pretty sure i know how to reassemble a bottom end. . you don't have to resleeve a h22. that is the stupidest thing ive ever heard. also you are in no position to call me a noob. i guess my car got where it did because i know nothing eh? i must be h22 illiterate. i've had a few h22 engines apart. i know what im doing.
also if you have to resleeve why does mike drive around with FORGED pistons in a stock h22 block. im surprised hes getting away with it though. hell, put stock pistons in, rings, bearings and your fine. who the hell told you you had to resleeve?
and yes, everyone wants a 5spd lude. name 1 person who would want to do a auto swap. absolutely no one.
Just thought I'd point out that I'm interested in this swap because it comes with an auto tranny. I'm thinking of dropping it in my del sol (which is an auto and swapping it to manual is gonna be a headache).
I'm gonna have to do some more research first then I'll contact you fartcanon and see if we can work something out. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
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Originally posted by fartcannon
Stock h22's with forged internals have blowby issues. Everyone reports having major blowby issues. FRM means something, not shit. Rehone....yah an 8hour hone job using 2 special types of rocks is such an easy job. Especially when it has to be cut at a certain angle for it to be successful. You can't just use some basic hone tool on an h22/h23 and have it work. All those engines you just mentioned you honed, yah....none of them have frm material on the cylinder walls.
You have a built h22 that a shop built for you and ripped you off on if you really want to get into it.
I'll dig up a few people who actually like having auto ludes. Hell, to top it off they are boost running 400whp and loving the auto lude.
Quit shitting in my thread tyler. I have talked to so many people outside of EPC who were offered to join and they say they would never dream of it because of shit like this. What kind of manager cuts up a members thread....
I am not even going to argue with you about this. Clearly you know everything about hone jobs since you clearly work for a machine shop.
im not cutting up the thread. im just telling you how it is, and you don't want to hear it. thats fine. even if the honing is that extensive. a shop like ec machine could do it in a day. your making it sound impossible, and thats far from the truth. as for a 400whp lude running auto, that is complete bullshit. the trannys couldn't handle it, and no company makes auto tranny upgrades for a prelude.
as for laskey ripping me off, are you fucking crazy? there are multiple members on this board alone that would argue heavily against that. where ANYWHERE around here are you going to get their quality of work. absolutely nowhere. especially on a honda block. it amazes me you would bad mouth one of the best honda block shops there is. good work isn't cheap. as for you knowing a bunch or prelude owners wanting to join the club, thats also BS. what do you have a secret underground prelude club? i think not. if they wanted to join they would. every club has drama, doesn't matter what club it is. im done posting in here. obviously im not getting through to you. thats ok. good luck selling a h23 long block for the same price as a H22. |
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| fartcannon |
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Originally posted by souriii
Just thought I'd point out that I'm interested in this swap because it comes with an auto tranny. I'm thinking of dropping it in my del sol (which is an auto and swapping it to manual is gonna be a headache).
I'm gonna have to do some more research first then I'll contact you fartcanon and see if we can work something out.
Sounds good, let me know when you figure everything out. |
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| fartcannon |
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Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
im not cutting up the thread. im just telling you how it is, and you don't want to hear it. thats fine. even if the honing is that extensive. a shop like ec machine could do it in a day. your making it sound impossible, and thats far from the truth. as for a 400whp lude running auto, that is complete bullshit. the trannys couldn't handle it, and no company makes auto tranny upgrades for a prelude.
as for laskey ripping me off, are you fucking crazy? there are multiple members on this board alone that would argue heavily against that. where ANYWHERE around here are you going to get their quality of work. absolutely nowhere. especially on a honda block. it amazes me you would bad mouth one of the best honda block shops there is. good work isn't cheap. as for you knowing a bunch or prelude owners wanting to join the club, thats also BS. what do you have a secret underground prelude club? i think not. if they wanted to join they would. every club has drama, doesn't matter what club it is. im done posting in here. obviously im not getting through to you. thats ok. good luck selling a h23 long block for the same price as a H22.
Lol, good job. I know laskey is a great shop, i was talking about AFI....you'd think of all people you would know what shop i was talking about.
Second, Honda-tech is going to have your answer about your doubt in a turbo 5th gen auto lude. I'll post it later tonight once i find the thread or someone links me too it.
Third, GFK and another member of this board can confirm mad prelude club bashing was happening on the steps of GFK's house by a guy with a black sr lude. A very clean on at that. I don't have a secret underground club, i just know alot of the members underlying hate for the current club. Mainly due to stuff like this.
Stop posting in the thread, it is what i asked you to do before. I'll still post up all the stuff just to prove you wrong
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| b18b.eg |
| yes people bash the prelude club all the time. i've seen it. been part of it, i think more than half the members in the club bash the club. |
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| mike3 |
| You might be best off parting out the H23. I parted mine out. Sold the block for $300 and the head for $200 to a guy that snapped a belt. I still have all the extra parts as spares. I just keep shit until someone says they need it. Since the H23 isn't so popular to people on here I would suggest trying to post it up for sale on kijiji or craigslist or even the bargain finder. You might find someone in need of one. |
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| fartcannon |
| yah, thats what i might be doing. |
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| 2ndgenlude |
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Originally posted by fartcannon
Lol, good job. I know laskey is a great shop, i was talking about AFI....you'd think of all people you would know what shop i was talking about.
Second, Honda-tech is going to have your answer about your doubt in a turbo 5th gen auto lude. I'll post it later tonight once i find the thread or someone links me too it.
Third, GFK and another member of this board can confirm mad prelude club bashing was happening on the steps of GFK's house by a guy with a black sr lude. A very clean on at that. I don't have a secret underground club, i just know alot of the members underlying hate for the current club. Mainly due to stuff like this.
Stop posting in the thread, it is what i asked you to do before. I'll still post up all the stuff just to prove you wrong
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im laughing my ass off reading these responses....
you said the rebuild, maybe next time you should specify. afi built nothing, just put the head on, and technically didn't charge me much at all to put it in. not to mention they pulled my blown engine for free, due to me not using the proper line and him warning me about it. then i disassembled the entire engine myself, labled/bagged the parts and sent it to laskey.and i could really care less if people bash the club. if someone thinks they are too good for it, or thinks we are a bunch of clowns, i wouldn't want them to join anyway. people are quick to judge. the only thing i have a problem with is you prancing around the forums and think you know everything. i've talked to a few members, and they happen to agree with me. no one likes a know it all. hell, you havn't even been to a meet in how long, you don't even participate at all.
also there isn't a turbo automatic 5th gen with 400whp. the stock trannys break under stock power levels, and something like a quaife tranny is a ridiculous amount of money if they even make one for a prelude.
as for not posting anymore, don't give me something to post about then. |
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| fartcannon |
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Originally posted by 2ndgenlude
im laughing my ass off reading these responses....
you said the rebuild, maybe next time you should specify. afi built nothing, just put the head on, and technically didn't charge me much at all to put it in. not to mention they pulled my blown engine for free, due to me not using the proper line and him warning me about it. then i disassembled the entire engine myself, labled/bagged the parts and sent it to laskey.and i could really care less if people bash the club. if someone thinks they are too good for it, or thinks we are a bunch of clowns, i wouldn't want them to join anyway. people are quick to judge. the only thing i have a problem with is you prancing around the forums and think you know everything. i've talked to a few members, and they happen to agree with me. no one likes a know it all. hell, you havn't even been to a meet in how long, you don't even participate at all.
also there isn't a turbo automatic 5th gen with 400whp. the stock trannys break under stock power levels, and something like a quaife tranny is a ridiculous amount of money if they even make one for a prelude.
as for not posting anymore, don't give me something to post about then.
Go fuck yourself tyler and EPC. How many members have you attracted since you became the manager? fucked if i know because all i see is a decline in them. How much initiative have you taken to make this club better? How many members did i actually bring to this club this year and get to join? I recommended tcpx, i got prelude21, i got nathanred...how many did you get? I feel sorry for them, i brought them into a club of shit. Maybe thats why all of them want to sell their lude.
I have been to just as many meets as you have :lol: thats the funniest part. They are just all the ones you have missed. I don't even own a prelude anyway so i really don't care to tell you the truth.
You don't like a know it all? Well the truth hurts i guess. I read a solid 2 hours a day and have for the last 3 years of archived proven facts, helms, w/e you can think of honda crap at my slack ass job. Sorry if i do have alot of knowledge.
You'll have your auto 5th gen soon enough.
Fuck your shitty club, i quit.
(ryan, i am not jacking your shifter so don't worry) |
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| CWU |
| Wow, so what was this thread about i forgot..... oh ya not much. Come on people, shit like this doesnt look good for either party. :dunno: Bumpage for a clean nice FOR SALE not internet toughness thread. This isnt Jr High anymore. |
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| mike3 |
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Originally posted by CWU
Wow, so what was this thread about i forgot..... oh ya not much. Come on people, shit like this doesnt look good for either party. :dunno: Bumpage for a clean nice FOR SALE not internet toughness thread. This isnt Jr High anymore.
Well said. No one is going to win the argument. You guys are bitching about nothing. It started out as one person thinking your price is too high, and now look at where it is.....:drama: |
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