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Gorgeous!! Over priced, but still gorgeous.
Hmmmm.....that 2.2 looks awful familiar, I guess the Lude still lives in a way.
Weren't they going to change the name to S2200?? I'm sure I read that somewhere. |
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| Seks |
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Originally posted by lude_boy93
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Gorgeous!! Over priced, but still gorgeous.
Over priced? As in comparing to the Z and RX-8?
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Hmmmm.....that 2.2 looks awful familiar, I guess the Lude still lives in a way.
The engine is not a h22a if that's what u're thinking...
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Weren't they going to change the name to S2200?? I'm sure I read that somewhere.
Still no confirmation. On the picture, you can clearly see the "S2000" emblem" |
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| TheWask |
Is the new engine a K series? Why only 8000 redline? That takes some of the fun away from it, pretty much the same redline as an RSX-S. There must be some reason behind it though.
Honda could have made a big move by upping the horsepower a good amount. How typical of them though :thumbsdown:
Overall I like the comestic changes, and the car is and always will be great! |
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| REFLUX |
2.2L, lower redline, more torque, same hp = there really IS no replacement for displacement!!! :lol:
TheWask: I remember reading that the engine will NOT be a K20, it will still be the F20C (I believe that IS the engine code) but it will use I-VTEC and probably be named F22 :)
what a minute...aren't F22's accord engines????????? :o |
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| Kwanjie |
hehe thoes Wheels sorta look like they came off a DC5R... sorta resembles Work Emotions as well.
:bow: :bow: Very nice indeed.... and is it equipped w\ I-VTEC? I heard it was. |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by Seks
Enhancements to the 2004 S2000 include:
New 2.2-liter engine for improved power delivery
240 horsepower @ 7700 rpm and 161 lb-ft. @ 6500 rpm replaces 240hp @ 8300 rpm and 153 lb-ft. @ 7500 rpm
What's the retail on this thing again?
For the love of cars, why won't Honda strap a TURBO onto their engines from the factory?
Or do Honda guys just love the idea of being forced into the top 20% of the rev range to get decent torque AND power? |
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| mrprecidia |
| CUP HOLDERS??!! thats not a sports car |
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| s2oooR |
I think i still like the old front better....i dont like the instrument gauge, i dont like the 8000rpm redline....but i do love the interior, lights, wheels, the exhaust moldings, etc.....
seks, u gonna trade yours in? :P I wonder if it'll come in white/red? .....ah, I cant afford one right now anyways :(
.....how much is it now, btw?
oh, and i happen to like the power range up in teh top 20%....means if u drive it normally, u still get awesome fuel mileage out of it! its great on gas! :D |
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| SHIFT_AT_9000_RPMS |
| I would love to see Honda slap a turbo or supercharger on the S2000. That car would be and insane ass kicker. Still couldn't afford one, but it would still be nice to see. Guess it totally goes against Honda's philosophies though. Screw gas mileage Honda, we want more power!! :fingersx: |
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| Seks |
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Originally posted by Kwanjie
:bow: :bow: Very nice indeed.... and is it equipped w\ I-VTEC? I heard it was.
It's just gonna be VTEC as far I have heard. The new engine code is gonna be F22C. |
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| Seks |
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
What's the retail on this thing again?
Supposedly going to be a tad more than the current 2003 MSRP of $48600 MSRP...
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For the love of cars, why won't Honda strap a TURBO onto their engines from the factory?
*shrug*
I guess that's why you have Comptech and Vortech producing SC's, and Speedcraft and Ultimate Racing producing turbo's for those cars. |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| 50,000 for a sporty roadster, that's a LOT cheaper then the porsche boxster or mercedes sl series, it's sharper lookin then the Z in my opinion and just more appealing than a roatary, I like it and wish I had 50,000, that car has tempted me to come over to the dark side :P |
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| CanadianR |
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
For the love of cars, why won't Honda strap a TURBO onto their engines from the factory?
That seems to go against Honda's philosophy, all they've ever built is normally aspirated cars. Hey, stick to what you know best i say. I'd rather see the rock-solid NA engines they make than an unreliable turbo engine. If Honda ever goes turbo they'll do it right and make a rock-solid turbo engine but i'm guessing it would cost them a fortune to make it, besides how much more would the car cost then. Also a turbo's power delivery usually isn't as well suited to the track as an NA car, going from off-boost to full boost in a corner tends to upset the balance of the car, making it slower out of the turn. |
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| CanadianR |
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
Or do Honda guys just love the idea of being forced into the top 20% of the rev range to get decent torque AND power?
If you're on a road circuit, which this car was basically built for, that's about where you're gonna be spending your time driving, at the top of the rev range. You can have a fast car while still getting great gas mileage AND have an ULEV as well. Honda builds their perfomance cars to excel on a track, which makes them not so suited to street racing, if you want a street car go buy something like an SRT-4. |
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| CanadianR |
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T
50,000 for a sporty roadster, that's a LOT cheaper then the porsche boxster or mercedes sl series, it's sharper lookin then the Z in my opinion and just more appealing than a roatary, I like it and wish I had 50,000, that car has tempted me to come over to the dark side :P
Yeah, it's actually quite a bargain compared with those cars. I think i'd take the 350Z over the s2000, but wouldn't even consider the others over it. |
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| silverTEG |
| :wub: thats fuckin beautiful, that car is definetly next for me. |
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| s2oooR |
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T
50,000 for a sporty roadster, that's a LOT cheaper then the porsche boxster or mercedes sl series, it's sharper lookin then the Z in my opinion and just more appealing than a roatary, I like it and wish I had 50,000, that car has tempted me to come over to the dark side :P
come on over, bitch! :P |
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| Inzane |
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
What's the retail on this thing again?
More than you can afford pal... HONDA!
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by Inzane
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
What's the retail on this thing again?
More than you can afford pal... HONDA!
:P
I was waiting for that exact quote as a resonse. :bigthumbup: |
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| Pro Drag |
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Originally posted by CanadianR
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
For the love of cars, why won't Honda strap a TURBO onto their engines from the factory?
That seems to go against Honda's philosophy, all they've ever built is normally aspirated cars. Hey, stick to what you know best i say.
Point taken, but Honda does have turbocharged engines in production, just not in their automotive production line. Do they not see enough demand? |
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| Insomniac |
| I think that Honda is mostly concerned with emissions and as such has stayed away from turbos. |
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| Insomniac |
| Brand identity too. |
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| scooby_dooby |
i love honda's cause they make they're power so high, there's just something about kickin it down to 5500 and hearing your engine scream up to 7000, and you can still run for 2 weeks on $20 if you keep it under 3000. and that's in my weak-ass LS, i wish i had a real honda redline
I think it's pretty gay they dropped the redline down 1000rpm, pretty much the same thing they did to the SIR's.
I always thought the coolest thing about the s2000 was that they're rev limiter was at almost 10,000rpm, man would that be a blast to drive. |
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| Insomniac |
Well I spent a week driving a new RSX-S around for a week in August, and I was disappointed.
For a car that makes 200hp, it sure doesn't go anywhere. If you rev it to like 5800-8000+, then it sort of moves, but not really.
It's hard to admire all of the fancy technology when, well, you just don't accelerate.
I think one of the V8less members with an S2000 needs to let me test drive their car, and maybe I'll change my mind about the Honda line up :bigthumbup: |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
| honda=cheap, reliable transportation... economy car, but their top end sports cars should be turbo'ed! |
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| redbaron303 |
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Originally posted by CanadianR
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Originally posted by SlowAzzPorsche911T
50,000 for a sporty roadster, that's a LOT cheaper then the porsche boxster or mercedes sl series, it's sharper lookin then the Z in my opinion and just more appealing than a roatary, I like it and wish I had 50,000, that car has tempted me to come over to the dark side :P
Yeah, it's actually quite a bargain compared with those cars. I think i'd take the 350Z over the s2000, but wouldn't even consider the others over it.
350Z and 350Z Convertable are better cars than the s2000.... :)
They may not rev to 10000rpm or even 9000 but they can get going early and quick! :)
Although the s2000 is sexy... I wouldn't mind a white one, black leather w/ volk te 37's in white on her! :) |
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| redbaron303 |
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Originally posted by CanadianR
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
Or do Honda guys just love the idea of being forced into the top 20% of the rev range to get decent torque AND power?
If you're on a road circuit, which this car was basically built for, that's about where you're gonna be spending your time driving, at the top of the rev range. You can have a fast car while still getting great gas mileage AND have an ULEV as well. Honda builds their perfomance cars to excel on a track, which makes them not so suited to street racing, if you want a street car go buy something like an SRT-4.
I don't think that's a 100% accurate statement.... Ferrari builds street ready track cars, built for track can be used on the street.... Honda builds economy cars, and three sports cars:Integ. Type R, NSX, and S2000 (IMO).
Having to bang through gears at 7000-9000rpm in a daily driver, I dunno it seems a little outta whack... I'm sure you can still get a decent track car with a motor that produces more low end torque and better midrang power than the majority of it's power in the high range...
(just out of the blue, you autox.... there is an s2000 that comes out lots but he doesn't seem to be able to beat Gerry in the rainbow vette.... both on way diff. power curves....)
If you want a good street car by a typical honda.... civic, accord, etc... at least they're better than most domestics. |
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| s2oooR |
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Originally posted by redbaron303
Having to bang through gears at 7000-9000rpm in a daily driver, I dunno it seems a little outta whack... I'm sure you can still get a decent track car with a motor that produces more low end torque and better midrang power than the majority of it's power in the high range...
(just out of the blue, you autox.... there is an s2000 that comes out lots but he doesn't seem to be able to beat Gerry in the rainbow vette.... both on way diff. power curves....)
If you want a good street car by a typical honda.... civic, accord, etc... at least they're better than most domestics.
man, you's so wrong, bitch :kill:
just real quick cuz i gotta go to school again....
but in daily driving, you dont drive in the higher rpms, do u? in city driving? I dont know, maybe some ppl do?
...and on track, (not some autox), do u drive in the lower rpms? who needs low end power when everyone knows you should keep your rpms in the higher range?......anyways, i think its all proven in F1 and CART....why have the engine redline at 15-18000 rpms (or whatever it is) if u think all the power should be in the lower end? .....:dunno: |
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| s2oooR |
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Originally posted by Insomniac
I think one of the V8less members with an S2000 needs to let me test drive their car, and maybe I'll change my mind about the Honda line up :bigthumbup:
I think seks will let u drive his ^_^ |
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| VerbotenZ34 |
Hmmm, it looks ok,....But it needs some other things....
Like a Weiland Blower standing two feet above the hood and drawing in small birds flying near ground level, and a chin sopiler that can brush aside cows and a rear suspension raised a foot so it can accommodate 23" Mickey Thompson drag radials!!! :D
...Then I might consider buying one j/k
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| SupraTTBlitz |
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Originally posted by CanadianR
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
For the love of cars, why won't Honda strap a TURBO onto their engines from the factory?
That seems to go against Honda's philosophy, all they've ever built is normally aspirated cars. Hey, stick to what you know best i say. I'd rather see the rock-solid NA engines they make than an unreliable turbo engine. If Honda ever goes turbo they'll do it right and make a rock-solid turbo engine but i'm guessing it would cost them a fortune to make it, besides how much more would the car cost then. Also a turbo's power delivery usually isn't as well suited to the track as an NA car, going from off-boost to full boost in a corner tends to upset the balance of the car, making it slower out of the turn.
Yeah i doubt Honda will ever build a turbocharged factory car but if they do they are gonna spend some serious cash to make it reliable. Even Toyota took no chances when building the 2JZ-GTE, they use an iron block and implemented oil sprays to spray the bottom of the piston heads. The next gen NSX is probably gonna be using a v8 rather than a turbocharged engine. |
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| SlowAzzPorsche911T |
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Originally posted by redbaron303
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Originally posted by CanadianR
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Originally posted by Pro Drag
Or do Honda guys just love the idea of being forced into the top 20% of the rev range to get decent torque AND power?
If you're on a road circuit, which this car was basically built for, that's about where you're gonna be spending your time driving, at the top of the rev range. You can have a fast car while still getting great gas mileage AND have an ULEV as well. Honda builds their perfomance cars to excel on a track, which makes them not so suited to street racing, if you want a street car go buy something like an SRT-4.
I don't think that's a 100% accurate statement.... Ferrari builds street ready track cars, built for track can be used on the street.... Honda builds economy cars, and three sports cars:Integ. Type R, NSX, and S2000 (IMO).
Having to bang through gears at 7000-9000rpm in a daily driver, I dunno it seems a little outta whack... I'm sure you can still get a decent track car with a motor that produces more low end torque and better midrang power than the majority of it's power in the high range...
(just out of the blue, you autox.... there is an s2000 that comes out lots but he doesn't seem to be able to beat Gerry in the rainbow vette.... both on way diff. power curves....)
If you want a good street car by a typical honda.... civic, accord, etc... at least they're better than most domestics.
no offence Red but who would know these cars better then the ppl who actually drive em? my car redlined at 9000 r.p.m and I never took it about 4 in the city, unless driving it "spiritedly" so I imagine R doesn't take his revs about 6 in the city |
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